I still own 5 properties in your area

Ah so you’re one of those people. Will live amongst the scrub to save a few dollars and put up with it, but wouldn’t dare trust your assets in the west.

none of my famiy have had the issues we experienced in the inner city from those that LIVED in our community!

If you’re counting other Indians as ‘your community’ then that doesn’t surprise me.

It’s no secret there is/was western suburbs mobs running around targeting Indians in Melbourne. A teenager was jailed for eight years just a week or so ago for rolling an Indian over a mobile phone in Yarraville. So let’s not pretend it doesn’t happen.

Working with DHS in the past the social placement of immigrants was where I learnt how racist the inner city is.

And yes I am an Australian with Indian origins…..and none of my famiy have had the issues we experienced in the inner city from those that LIVED in our community!

— “A tense five and a half hour siege in Melbourne’s west has been ended peacefully by police today.
Heavily armed police surrounded a Deer Park property after a group of teens locked themselves inside and refused to come out.

But it was not until just before 9am that the end finally ended when the final person surrendered to police as officers threatened to storm the house at gunpoint.”

Must be reminiscent of living in Beirut or Kabul in the western suburbs LOL.

Kirsty: Now I live inner west and have not had any issues in the last 10 years I have lived here.

As I quoted earlier, the latest VicPol crime statistics indicate the following suburbs with the highest annual assault rates in the entire Melbourne metropolitan region:

Reservoir 153

St Albans 151

Craigieburn 99

Broadmeadows 95

Hoppers Crossing 94

Sunshine 91

Coburg 88

Glenroy 85

Coolaroo 81

—And you can’t deny these stats. They’re a fact.

Pull your head out of your arse and give all the extra resources and funding that are provided by government to more affulent areas to areas like the west and see the difference.

Demand for drugs and designer boganwear skyrocket?

Spread the location of immigrant to include areas like inner city and see the difference.

Come now, that would be social engineering. Nobody made them all move together into their little conclaves.

I am well educated, have a successful business in the CBD and yet hated living in the inner city as I experienced a large quantity of events that have chilled me to the bone.

Robbed, bashed, raped…. what did those westie suburbs trash running around the city do to you?

My condolences whatever it was.

Now I live inner west and have not had any issues in the last 10 years i have lived here.

Of course not, unless you’re Indian the western suburbs trash is too busy pillaging the CBD.

People like you are half the reason I left the inner city.

Good riddance!

Pull your head out of your arse and give all the extra resources and funding that are provided by government to more affulent areas to areas like the west and see the difference.

Spread the location of immigrant to include areas like inner city and see the difference.

Truth be known I was born interstate, moved and was raised for half of my childhood in the inner city and the other half in the west.

I am well educated, have a successful business in the CBD and yet hated living in the inner city as I experienced a large quantity of events that have chilled me to the
bone.

Now I live inner west and have not had any issues in the last 10 years i have lived here.

If you have such an issue, how about getting off your arse and move into work where you can help fix the problems instead of pointing fingers and throwing out stupid ignorant comments.

People like you are half the reason I left the inner city.

ozsoapbox: n response, nobody’s stating that crime doesn’t exist in the east, but rather it’s disproportionately attributed to the west.

Game. Set. Match. Anyone who disagrees with this is an oxygen thief.

What I shake my head at is the people who spend so much time and effort defending and justifying the crime rate in the Western Suburbs when instead they can use that effort to contibute to the West to reduce it. Stop defending what is cut and dry and start changing.

sammy: I have lived in the western and northern suburbs all my life, these areas of Melbourne have been neglected; without a doubt; whether it is patrolling either train stations or the areas in general, or simple rights such as having our roads fixed and education.

I’ve lived in Frankston for the past ten years or so and can exactly mirror your comments—about the south-eastern suburbs too.

One only has to look at the “leafy” inner Melbourne suburbs— Malvern, Brighton, Armadale, Balwyn, Canterbury, Ivanhoe etc — to see how funding and facilities are directed towards these affluent, so -called “doctors’ wives” population centres.

One of the reasons you don’t get many of the Frankston thugs in Melbourne’s CBD is that—unlike the proximitous western suburbs— it’s simply too far for them to travel. The local gangs are content to terrorise the Frankston residents.

BTW, if you ever happen to come to Frankston never utilise Frankston railway station after dark. It’s open slather for drug-dealers and muggers.

The growing difference between the house prices in relation to the east and west are obvious and inevitable, unfortunately, creating an even bigger gap. Therefore, these areas will for the most part remain low socio-economic areas.

However, there are very decent people living in these suburbs as well, especially with the growing and expanding of new estates, cairnlea, the avenue, brimbank gardens, edge water etc, the west is definitely growing faster, because there is room to grow, I can only hope that this growth is positive.

Lastly, instead of, ‘stopping and catching criminals or scum’, we need to educate them and provide more options, and unfortunetly, this transcends police patrolling, this is legislative and parliament, I think these areas of Melbourne have been neglected enough.

In the rule of law, everyone is equal in the eyes of the law; therefore, deserves the same treatment no matter what area you live in, what you look like or what you believe in. Otherwise we will be only cleaning the surface, while the inside rots away.

Sammy

Alex of the Northern/Western Suburbs: Lived in the northern and western suburbs my whole life and went to high school in Footscray.

Nobody deserves that sort of upbringing.

I’m guessing by your exemplary use of the copulative adjective that you’re still living there?

Lived in the northern and western suburbs my whole life and went to high school in Footscray.

…and?

Lived in the northern and western suburbs my whole life and went to high school in Footscray.

ozsoapbox:
I dunno. I still personally consider Dandenong and Frankston to be honorary western suburbs.

You’ve cut me to the core mate LOL.

I live in Frankston hehe. I was recently reading the VicPol crime statistics, and one of them was that the police helicopter spends more air time over Frankston than any other municipality in greater Melbourne. Not sure quite how to interpret this?

It’s difficult (and ultimately meaningless) to quote figures by individual suburbs, as the VicPol crime statistics refer to police “regions” across Victoria, with Melbourne being region 01.

For any interested Melburnites, you can check out the 2010 figures here (it’s a 44-page PDF document):

http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.asp?a=internetBridgingPage&Media_ID=59806

The latest survey of Frankston residents (2009) showed that 82 per cent were fearful of walking around their neighbourhood after dark. The fact that Frankston houses an older-age demographic group might influence this to a certain extent, but it’s still a pretty disturbing statistic.

The figures I quoted earlier…

“RMIT criminologist Associate Professor Julian Bondy said the figures showed postcodes in the west and north-west contributed to city assaults at a rate 86 per cent higher than the Melbourne-wide mean.”

… are probably more meaningful in demonstrating the general locations of the criminal element. Compared to the western suburbs, Frankston has an extremely low per capita population of migrants, with very few Lebanese, Asian, African, or eastern European people living here.

This tends to keep gang activity and drug-related crimes against the person in Frankston lower than the western suburbs.

Dandenong is totally different demographically to Frankston, largely because of the huge influx of migrants attracted by the high-density manufacturing industries surrounding the city, and who are major employers of unskilled labour.

I know if we cut them off we as a city wouldn’t be losing anything .

Dandenong infact has more crime then ANY suburb in the West. Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m not so you can’t.

Assault:

864 (Broadmeadows) – APR 10 – MAR 11

And ladies and gentlemen our beloved Dandenong from the EAST.

1187.2 (Dandenong) – APR 10 – MAR 11
(OH MY GOD WHAT? NO NOTHING IN THE WONDER EASTERN SUBURBS CAN EVER BE TAINTED BECAUSE WE ARE PREFECT AND BETTER THEN EVERYONE ELSE.)

739.2 (Sunshine and St. Albans) – APR 10 – MAR 11
Rather be here then in Dandenong.

Must suck being so blind, I feel sorry for you.
Think you have to let go of your little stigma buddy!

Thanks for reading,
Resident of Epping,
We’re better then you!

What proportion of the people living in Melbourne’s West have you actually met?

What kind of asinine question is that to ask. You know full well I’m not going to be able to answer that remotely accurately.

you would have no other legitimate reason to denigrate them as “lower socio-economic uneducated dropkicks”

Well that and the fact you only need to drive around the west for a bit to get a pretty good idea of who lives there. I suppose you could always take a look at house prices too.

Maybe those incidents could have been prevented if society had done more

Ah, you’re one of those people.

Society doesn’t owe anyone dick. It’s not society’s fault people are morons and by blaming society you’re offering up nothing more than a convenient scapegoat.

It’s society’s fault I’m all messed up!

It’s society’s fault I have se with animals!

It’s society’s fault I like to bash people!

*barf*

In fact maybe you should take the time to volunteer at a resource centre in the West, tutoring newly arrived youth, and see if you feel any moral gratification.

No thanks. I’d rather not deal with them entirely – hence the reason for authoring this article.

It reeks of egotism and there is no evidence of compassion and acceptance.

I kinda run low on those two items when we’re talking the dropkicks of Melbourne’s west. Infact low is misleading, I’m bluntly sold out.

If these are the values that you have been taught in your upper-class culture then I’m certainly glad I’m not a part of it.

No worries, I’ll leave you to you’re violent thieving rabble then.

Disgusted: What proportion of the people living in Melbourne’s West have you actually met? I would assume that you’ve met or encountered at least 50% as you would have no other legitimate reason to denigrate them as “lower socio-economic uneducated dropkicks”.

Do you truly need to personally meet at least 50% of the al-Qaeda membership to accept that they’re all terrorists?

See my earlier posting (3 Mar 11) for the actual crime statistics re the western suburbs. And bear in mind these stats cover the entire greater Melbourne area. Or don’t you believe the VicPol figures?

Your bright proposal is to “bomb the Westgate and sink Footscray road”. That sounds like a really resourceful and well-thought out solution to what is ultimately a societal issue.

I refer to Peter Singer’s statement that “if it is in our power to prevent something bad from happening, without thereby sacrificing anything of comparable moral importance, we ought, morally, to do it”.

The incidents that you spoke about in your article are by no means indicative of the behaviour of everyone in the Western suburbs. Maybe those incidents could have been prevented if society had done more to help these INDIVIDUALS (note my emphasis on the word individuals, and not “suburb”).

In fact maybe you should take the time to volunteer at a resource centre in the West, tutoring newly arrived youth, and see if you feel any moral gratification.

I’m in no position to make any comments about you as a person (despite the fact that you don’t hesitate to present outrageous generalisations of people), but your post was completely arrogant and presented no real solution to a problem that you can’t seem to properly identify.

It reeks of egotism and there is no evidence of compassion and acceptance. If these are the values that you have been taught in your upper-class culture then I’m certainly glad I’m not a part of it.

Scarey stuff. Living on the wild side hey?

Which one of the World’s most dangerous places are you venturing to next?