Sudanese crime in Melbourne plummets to new lows
I’d like to be able to say as I watched the video footage of three Sudanese men kicking the absolute crap out of a guy on his own that I was shocked and surprised. Sadly whilst the violence was hard to watch the fact that the men involved were Sudanese didn’t raise any eyebrows.
Watch the graphic footage, taken from Sunshine station in Melbourne on the early hours of the 24th February below:
Here are some examples of Sudanese crime over the last few years;
- July, 2007 Melbourne: “At least 30 youths gatecrashed a private 16th birthday party at St Albans on Friday night, wielding machetes, iron bars and broken bottles.”
- September, 2007 Melbourne: “Three people have been arrested in South Australia over the bashing death last week of a Sudanese-born teenager in Melbourne’s south-east. Assistant Commissioner Paul Evans said investigators were dealing with a tribe mentality among refugees who had come from a culture of boy soldiers and social violence.”
- April, 2008 Melbourne: “Hundreds of young Sudanese and other African refugees have been arrested following a five-month crackdown by Victoria Police on gang violence and crime in Melbourne’s southeast. Assistant Police Commissioner Paul Evans says the 276 arrests and more than 280 charges against young Africans for crimes including violent assault and possession of firearms reflect a gang culture among some Sudanese youngsters living in urban areas.”
- August, 2008 Queensland: “A young woman has been snatched from an Ipswich street and sexually assaulted by four men. Police said she was then taken to an unknown location and physically and sexually assaulted for several hours. Detectives are now looking for four men of Sudanese heritage, one of whom had a golden front tooth.”
- November, 2008 Adelaide: “Daniel Awak was stabbed to death and another teenager was admitted to hospital in a critical condition with knife wounds after a fight among a group of 12 Sudanese Australians. Police said about 15 Sudanese youths started fighting in City Cross Arcade at 3.40pm.”
- December, 2008 Melbourne: “A Melbourne man has been charged with attempted murder after allegedly stabbing a 19 year old in the head with a screwdriver.”
I'll teach you not to steal my empty coke bottle! You know I can get 5c for these things in South Australia right?!?
The brutality and sheer daring of some of the crimes is amazing, and these are only the crimes that make it to the mainstream media.
In response to public fear over rising Sudanese crimewaves Victorian Police Chief Commissioner Christine Nixon answered in 2007 that “Sudanese people represented only 1 per cent of the criminals her force deals with”. This statistic put things into perspective and was widely accepted until Andrew Bolt publicly challenged it.
He claimed that Nixon’s statistic was accurate if you used the total number of African immigrants and the total number offenders. If you focused on the Sudanese, which was what everyone was actually interested in the numbers were much, much higher.
Out of the 6200 Sudanese living in Victoria at the time, 316 were alleged offenders, which as Bolt puts it is “about one in 19 Sudanese each year gets picked up for alleged crimes – more than four times the one-in-83 rate for all Victorians.”
It isn’t just Melbourne that has a problem with the Sudanese either. The Realists write:
Reports from Adelaide show that over the past 16 months, 450 offences had been committed by 93 members of Adelaide’s 1500-strong Sudanese community, or put another way, a staggering 1 in 16 Sudanese refugees commits on average 1 crime every 3 months.
This is “double that of the Adelaide general crime rate” as the Port Macquarie Preservationists point out.
Clearly a worrying trend is emerging here.
In October 2007 Liberal Immigration minister Kevin Andrews announced:
The Government squeezed the African component of the refugee program because “some groups don’t seem to be settling and adjusting into the Australian way of life”.
He also stated that no more African migrants would be proccessed because Australia’s quota had already been reached. The exact reduction numbers of African immigration out of the total immigration pool were reported to be from about “70 per cent two years ago to 30 per cent.”
Unfortunately it later came to light that at the time of this announcement the quota had yet to be reached. Furthermore to that the Rudd government Minister for Immigration and Citizenship, Senator Chris Evans stated in March 2008 that:
No freeze had been imposed on the intake of African refugees and processing of applications continued. African migration continues and we want to do more next year.
So here we are in 2009 with the government wanting to increase African immigration which includes the Sudanese and no apparent real contingency plan to deal with the obvious increase in crazies who are being shipped out of the troubled region. Of course anyone who publicly touches on the issue is instantly labelled a xenophobic racist so there isn’t much public discussion on the issue, just the random horrific crime that filters through the media every few months.
They are obviously a troubled people from a troubled country and we really need to make sure we’re screening them properly and doing everything we can before letting them out into the Australian public. In Sudan calls for a teacher to be shot for naming a Teddy bear Mohammed in the UK. Really, this is the kind of rubbish we don’t need to be letting into Australia.
I myself don’t have any answers on this one and whilst I’d like to admit I’m above irrational fear I already know this isn’t the case.
Late last year I was cycling home from work in the late afternoon. I’d taken a slightly different route into the CBD and at one particular point ran out of road and had to lift my bike over a curb. As I dismounted to do so an African man behind me (I instantly recognised the accent) asked me for help.
I ignored him presuming he was talking to someone else and was almost back on my bike when I heard is voice again right behind me, ‘excuse me, can I ask you something’. I thought I was seconds away from handing over my wallet, though luckily he just wanted directions to a main street in the northern suburbs.
He left me standing there on my bike feeling like an idiot. While it’s easy to label me a racist I don’t feel that was the case, guilty of stereotyping yes but given where I was (flemington road public housing is a known trouble spot) I don’t think it was completely unjustified.
It’s not a case of prejudice against the race per say, more it’s a genuine lack of confidence in the government to process African immigration responsibly. If all you read about these people is brazen daylight bashings and machete stabbings in the media, it’s very easy to feel vulnerable when you are approached on your own by a random person of African appearance.
Bozwell writes:
Well that’s just great isn’t it? I have to worry about getting my arse kicked by a bunch of Sudanese thugs because this country is kind enough to let them in–then allowing them to run riot in the streets!
Some would argue that’s media sensationalism at work, I’d counter that it’s passive condemnation of failed government policy regarding the issue with no clear alternative or counter measures in sight.
October 29th, 2009 at 12:17 pm Kim(Quote)
I am furious about our immigration laws and who is allowed into Australia!! I do not care what race comes here but there should be a strict condition of residency that if you are convicted of a crime, you should be immediately sent back to your country of birth! Australia is a joke! We are welcoming actual “GANGS” into our country! We are welcoming people who do not feel the need to mix with us which creates division between races! Ny father is an immigrant and he can speak and read english unlike a lot of other immigrants! Dont the politicians realize that the punishment for crime here is a joke to these people and they do not fear the justice system or feel the need to abide by our laws!! I love this country and welcome anyone that loves and respects it too!
October 29th, 2009 at 12:58 pm douglas(Quote)
sorry they’re mentality and outlook on life is totally different to our way of thinking , and they still live via a tribal instinct, not wanted here
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:04 pm Vadi(Quote)
Nearly every person who shops in the centre of Adelaide now has a “Sudanese” story – young women, especially blondes, are taunted with sexist and racist abuse, and Sudanese youth roam Adelaide in gangs dressed in rap gangsta type clothes, intimidating others and adopting a highly threatening demeanour. The police will privately admit that they are a troubled community with excess violence and spiralling crime rates well above the average. I am not sure what the answer is, but as a professional, I was warned some years ago that this had been the story wherever Sudanese had migrated, and that unless we put proper support structures in place, there would be an epidemic of crime and violence. But of course nobody in authority wants to admit that there are problems in our multicultural paradise (other African communities seem to have integrated well into Adelaide, and are lawabiding citizens).
January 6th, 2010 at 12:37 pm len(Quote)
Australia needs to harden up and get tougher on who they are letting into this country, stop worry about whether or not your a racist you fool and just use some common sense!
January 11th, 2010 at 12:38 am Hank(Quote)
Did you actually consider what good would come out of posting a blog entry like this?
Congratulations on writing something highly opinionated yet completely under-researched. It’s nice that you have provided references to support your statements but nearly all of these fall through on closer inspection.
While I had no idea who Andrew Bolt was, I can see from his Wikipedia page and a cursory glance on Google the he’s a media troll who writes for the Murdoch press.
You are correct that it’s outrageous to hear that Sudanese called for a white teacher to be shot for naming a teddy bear “Mohammed”. However, you seem to be confusing Northern Sudan with Southern Sudan (more likely is that you don’t even know there is a difference).
Do you even know one Sudanese person? Have you met a Sudanese person before? By posting a video of Sudanese men bashing a white person and compiling up a list of ctimes committed by Sudanese persons” all you will do is incite hatred against Sudanese.
This whole entry seems a tad hypocritical in light of your most recent entry: http://ozsoapbox.com/world/racism-towards-indian-students-in-australia-please/
January 11th, 2010 at 11:04 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Sure I did. If someone reads this and sees a group of Sudanese guys hanging around a train station maybe they’ll avoid getting bashed/macheted or whatever.
I like how in the same breath you criticise me for under researching but then go ahead and acknowledge my sources. What, so you know a few Sudanese and all of a sudden none of them are guilty of running around in gangs bashing people?
I don’t really care if there’s a north and south Sudan. Acknowledging a north and south Sudan doesn’t change the fact it happened.
Living in Melbourne I can answer yes to both questions. I think the nicest Sudanese person I met was a guy who stopped me to ask for directions in Parkville.
Far more common is the uneasy feeling I got when riding to Marybyrnong and having groups of Sudanese from the
ghettoshousing commisissions near by give me the evil eye like I was invading their turf or something.As for Indians, the difference here is that we don’t know if it’s solely whitey targeting the Indians. As you’re aware of Australia, Melbourne in particular is made up of many nationalities.
For all we know it could be Sudanese, Asians or who knows targeting them.
The Sudanese on the other hand just seem to indiscriminately wamt to machete anyone who looks at them the wrong way showing disrespekt yo.
At the end of the day it doesn’t really matter if you’re Sudanese or whatever. The point being that if you come from a wartorn shithole of a country leave your baggage behind. Innocent people shouldn’t have to put up with your violent past.
January 13th, 2010 at 2:28 am White Dude(Quote)
Firstly let me touch on the Sunshine train station bashing. I happen to know all 3 of the men who Bashed that guy, one of them is in fact Somali and not Sudanese, whereas the other two are.
I happen to know a bit more of what happened that night than what the media lets out. It wasn’t entirely a random bashing on they’re part, in fact there are two sides to the story. Firstly the 3 men were high and drunk (not that this should be an excuse) then they ask the guy for a smoke he says no and goes to walk off, as he walks off he quietly says a racist slur against them, and that’s when they attack.
Another instance of a “gang of Sudanese” attacking an Indian happened not too long ago. I got off at Tottenham Train Station (station before Sunshine) as I was walking down the ramp I noticed these Sudanese kids putting gloves on like they were getting ready for something. The kids would have been between the ages of 13 to 17 years of age (there was about 10 or so of them), as I walk past the underpass one of the kids looks at me and says hello, I reply and say hey back and we instantly get into a conversation there is no problem here at all I didn’t feel threatened, but then he told me to not say anything and walk away because in the background they had an Indian student bailed up against the wall demanding his wallet and laptop.
I hate to say it but I did nothing about it, the kids got away with the crime and the Indian fellow was begging for help, I just walked off and did nothing.
Let me say I am white and have plenty of African friends, some of which are Sudanese, yes there are some that sway toward violence but there are also some which are good people. I totally agree with previous postings that there should be a screening system of immigrants to check if they have a shady past.
Thanks for listening.
January 13th, 2010 at 1:23 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
It’s a difficult one that. You know you can’t really do much against 10 or so most likely armed teenagers. Personally I’d have probably called the police after walking away a bit but you and I know by the time they got there the kids would have scattered.
I’m not saying all Sudanese are war torn violent nutjobs, just that the ones that are seem to act in such a brazen manner. In that if you asked that gang of kids if they thought what they were doing was wrong, they’d probably tell you no.
Then there’s the deafening silence in terms of the rest of the Sudanese caring that their societal reputation is being dragged through the gutter by these deadbeats.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:27 pm Jay(Quote)
Immigration and Immigrants are two different issues and it’s possible to approach both in a rational way. You can be Anti Immigration but not Anti Immigrant, Immigration is a process, an immigrant is a person.
People who speak out against immigration are automatically branded racists by activists and politicians who don’t want to debate the issue.
That’s the key point, there is NO DEBATE on immigration in this country, the media and government couch it in those terms but it’s not a political issue, we never have and never will be asked to vote on the issue.
A comments section on a blog doesn’t really permit an expansive analysis of the subjects of Globalisation, The Third Way and Communitarianism, Google those terms and you’ll understand where the government and opposition are coming from.
Serious opponents of that system realise that like the Communists and Fascists from which they draw their inspiration and methods that the manufactured crisis, (or “Active measures”in the old Soviet parlance) Racism in this case, are the stock in trade of repressive governments like ours.
You know what would really scare them and the so called “Anti Racists”?
If white Australians and Sudanese actually worked together to solve their problems. It’d drive Rudd insane.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:51 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
I’ve got nothing against skilled immigration and my only problem with unskilled immigration is when we fail to adequately screen or somehow instill prior to arrival that Rafferty’s rules do not fly here.
Australia isn’t some wartorn craphole and the people that live here shouldn’t be subjected to violent cultural baggage.
I’m also not too sure it’s a white vs. Sudanese thing. With attacks mostly occuring in the western suburbs of Melbourne, I’d be willing to bet that some of them have been purpertrated by Sudanese (or other ‘black’) people. It’s not like the civil war in Sudan is black vs. white, it’s pretty much black vs. black.
Coming from this environment I think those that are troubled and violent show a disregard for anyone of any race and color. Simply put they don’t care who’s lives they destroy.
I’d love for either communities or the government to work towards adequately addressing these issues before people are let into the country.
January 20th, 2010 at 1:37 pm Jay(Quote)
The government won’t address the issue, bringing the Africans here was their idea, both sides supported it, don’t forget Howard increased the intake of people from the Third World.
We’ve known for hundreds of years what Africans are like, we know how they interact with and respond to Europeans, we know how they behave in European societies and how to maximise positive outcomes for them. They need constant support and supervision when living among us otherwise they revert to their natural inclination to indolence and crime.
Look at Haiti, that country has been re built four times in the last 100 years,they motor along okay while the peacekeepers are there but as soon as the benefactors leave the place is destroyed.
Howard knew what would happen with the Africans, everybody knew, I live in the Northern suburbs and I saw it unfold, literally before my eyes. I saw them arrive in numbers, they seemed to be going OK then after a year or so the gangs started appearing.
Honestly, putting a group of former child soldiers down at Flemington with minimal adult supervision was only going to have one outcome.
Africans are pawns, some say weapons, the government are using them as a wedge to divide the community and stop dissent generally, notice how there’s no room to move on the issue? There’s no way to have a reasonable discussion, a genuine Liberal or a genuine Conservative can’t express an opinion without being pushed into either an Extreme Left/Communist stance or being labelled a “Far Right” racist.
As I said it’s too small a forum to really discuss all that the government are doing, all the machinations, I just want people to to look a bit harder at what our politicians really believe, because they plan everything they do down to the last detail, it’s all pretty much out in the open, what I talk about isn’t a conspiracy theory it’s a set of objectives that they themselves promote and are proud of.
January 20th, 2010 at 8:37 pm Bushrat(Quote)
So where does this all leave us then? From the posts I have read, it seems you all have a valid point of view. I agree in particular with the observations about “boy soldiers” – point being that these young people have been taught to hate, taught to be violent, maybe some have been taught to kill, (maybe some already have ! ) then voila’ they are allowed to come to Australia.
Yep, trained and seasoned, still high on the adrenalin of youth and hormones, seriously, what the fuck does the government THINK they are going to act like? Choir boys?
I dont have perfect a solution to the problem, I dont think there is one. Kicking them out and sending them home after they commit a crime will likely create a terrorist with a hatred for Australia.
Screening would be near impossible, given the records available for checking on individuals in these countries.
So what do we do, say no to everyone and punish the innocent ones along with the bad seeds?
Like I said, no easy answer. But one thing I do know is that the mainstream of decent Australian people (including decent immigrants and refugees) are sick to death of seeing this sort of shit happen. Next there will be vigilante groups starting up, who will undoubtably target the wrong people!
It simply cant be allowed to go unchecked any longer, or we risk losing everything this country holds dear.
Wot a bloody mess!
January 20th, 2010 at 10:44 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
I believe we’re set to repeat the process what with the break down of the Tamil Tigers and those who are known ot the Sri Lankan government jumping on boats to Indonesia. We accept them as asylum seekers and they set up their little anti sinhalese cliques and continue their cultural baggage bullshit on our shores.
I tip over the next 5 years the spotlight will shift from merciless Sudanese boy soldiers to hardened young Sri Lankan men. Thankfully however they don’t seem to be as sporadic in their attacks as the Sudanese troublemakers.
I read a story a few weeks back I think on a vigilante group forming in QLD (or was it NSW?). Can’t remember the name but some guy wanted to open an Australian arm of a US vigilante (neighbourhood watch) group and got the go ahead.
No idea if it will be effective (I take it these things usually aren’t) but the point I guess is it’s already happening.
January 21st, 2010 at 9:33 am bushrat(Quote)
Sadly, you are probably right with your prediction.
January 21st, 2010 at 10:00 pm Jay(Quote)
Putting pressure on the government to enforce the laws is a start, get in touch with victims of crime groups and activists like Steve Medhurst and Shane Mitchell.
Did anyone go to the Rally to support victims of crime last year? I did, given that this is such a big issue the turnout was pretty poor.
Neutralising the term “Racism” is another,Racism is a vulgar slur used against White people, usually by other brainwashed White people but increasingly by other races.
Racially motivated crime is on the rise but since the word “Racism” only applies to Caucasian people (really, look it up) then it’s inaccurate and ultimately meaningless in it’s current usage.
People don’t bash Indians because they themselves are White or African or whatever,they do it because they have made asumptions about the victim, based on their appearance, the “Racial” aspect refers to the race of the victim not the attackers.
Breaking down Political correctness is another important thing, say what you mean and don’t beat around the bush, call a spade a spade as it were. Who said it’s unacceptable to talk about race and immigration? Nobody, but it makes people uncomfortable all the same and sweeping something under the rug makes it worse.
In the end we’re stuck with this situation, I think in time to come we’ll see a whole lot of new Ethno political groups coming into being and Multiculturalism will take on a new meaning, we’ll see real enclaves forming and a disappearing middle class.
Assimilation is just a dream for dumb Marxists, every time it’s been tried it’s failed, just ask the Aboriginals, they were pushed right to the edge by assimilation, but they’re still here.
I’m an optimist by nature so I reckon whatever happens, in 100 years Australia is still going to look like it does now, despite any “progressive”(ha ha!) ideas like assimilation.
January 25th, 2010 at 1:32 am Hank(Quote)
You didn’t read my post. Do save you the trouble of scrolling up to check, I’ve quoted the relevant sentence.
-In the reference for July 2007 you’ve attributed gatecrashing and subsequent violence to Sudanese. While the article mentions Sudanese near the end it actually attributes this to the SnK gang. The author states that some of these people “are believed to be members of the notorious SnK (St Albans and Kings Park) gang”. This is an Asian gang, not African (let alone Sudanese).
-The reference of September 2007 is about Liep Gony. Liep Gony was bashed to death by two white Australians. This was a racially motivated attack. Liep did not know his attackers and his attackers did not know him. He did nothing to provoke the attack apart from being black.
-The reference for April 2008 is actually a very positive article (making me wonder why you posted it) about Sudanese communities moving away from the trouble areas they have been placed in. I suggest you read it. Pay attention to the family in the story. The little boy was killed while playing in his front yard late last year. He was run over by a drunk driver who crashed through his front fence (the driver was a white Australian).
-Andrew Bolt is unsuitable source as he’s the equivalent of a Fox News journalist.
-The Realists is an incredibly racist blog whose writers:
“believe that the large numbers of immigrants currently coming to Australia adversely impacts the quality of life of those already living in Australia”. (That’s a direct quote from the site’s About page)
The reason brought this up was because you were quoting a news story to create a negative perception of Sudanese. The Sudanese you think you are talking about are Southern Sudanese. These are the Sudanese you will typically see in Australia and they are predominately black and Christian. The Sudanese in the story you are quoting are Northern Sudanese. They are predominately Arab and Muslim.
and then…
The civil war in Sudan would be more accurately described as Black vs Arab.
Don’t pretend you know what you’re talking about. You obviously have no idea.
January 25th, 2010 at 11:23 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
It actually says “Some of the armed teenagers who stormed the party are believed to be members of the notorious SnK”. This indicates that the ‘victims’ were of Sudanese origin and the article portrays the attack as revenge for something the Sudanese did.
Additionally it mentions that some of the ‘victims’ were out the night after looking for purpertrators of the previous nights attack (ie. they were out in their own gangs looking for SNK members).
I’m not saying SnK or the Sudanese gangs are justified (both are stupid and unneccesary in my opinion) but clearly the Sudanese are just as violent and organised as the SnK mob.
Sorry where are you pulling this from? The article mentions that in the prior few weeks two police officers were injured after confronting African (Sudanese) gangs in the area.
I’m willing to bet Gony was in the middle of it (his profile photo is stereotypical FOB gangstah nonsense) and it wasn’t so random. Black, white and whatever your nationality, you walk around like you own the place one day someone’s going to show you the door.
One of the three ‘whites’ involved was female. What’s the bet Gony was harassing her?
It was posted because it illustrated that for every decent refugee from Sudan there’s an entire tribe of deadbeats hell bent on turning Melbourne’s western suburbs into Sudan mk2.
So bad are the Sudanese gangs that the decent Sudanese don’t even want to be around them.
Regardless of your opinions of Bolt, the statistical inaccuracies in the numbers presented to the Australian public by the police cannot be brushed aside. Bolt just happened to be the one who went public with the discrepencies first.
The Realists might be anti-immigration (which is different to being racist) but again, your opinion of them does not invalidate the statistical numbers presented.
Nobody cares.
South Sudanese, Christian or Arab. All people see is some guy from war torn Sudan beating the shit out someone. The average Australian doesn’t give two shits if the purpertrators are northern, southern, Mormon or Jehova’s Witness.
In the context of rabidly crazy morons from a war torn country they are all just Sudanese as far as I’m concerned.
January 26th, 2010 at 1:32 am Hank(Quote)
Oh, I see that my point is lost on you and you can’t seem to take any criticism. I suggest you take the time to read what I’ve written before writing superfluous counter arguments.
Maybe someone else can point it out but you’re clearly not an expert on this.
A parting shot:
http://tinyurl.com/y9q4ued
January 26th, 2010 at 2:23 am ozsoapbox(Quote)
One court hearing does not address any of the other points I made. Nor the fact that racially motivated crimes usually have a backstory.
http://www.borglobe.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=728:justice-elizabeth-curtain-imposes-ban-on-showing-men-responsible-for-liep-gony-murder&catid=1:general-news&Itemid=99
In this case the man involved, Rintoull was chased down by a gang of Sudanese (surprise surprise). Afterwards he cracked it and went looking for revenge.
As for Gony’s innocence. Media Watch identified him as a gang member. Sure on the night he was killed he might have just been drinking (stolen?) alcohol, but nonetheless he was a criminal deadbeat.
http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s2054150.htm
As far as I’m concerned we had white trash killing Sudanese trash and neither side deserves any sympathy.
I’m certainly not excusing the actions of Rintoull but the one sided picture you paint of the incident is just full of horseshit. Also, although I disagree with it, it’s worth noting the judge found the attack “was not racially motivated”.
I’m glad that the attackers were caught but that doesn’t address the issue that there are more then a few Sudanese running around Melbourne with a ‘this is wartorn Sudan, now where’s my machete’ mindset.
Nobody cares whether they are north or south Sudanese. Nobody cares what religion they are. As a Melbournian I just want the violent Sudanese spoiling it for the rest of them gone.
January 27th, 2010 at 10:34 pm Jay(Quote)
Hank, you,like most “Anti Racists” ignore what you want and hear only what you want to hear, you go looking for evidence to fit your conclusions about White Racism.
This is Political Correctness in the extreme, it shows up it’s quasi religious nature in high relief, anything that contradicts doctrine must be wrong.
Rintoull didn’t hate Black people, days earlier he’d helped out a homeless African man, made him some sandwiches because he was hungry.Rintoull had Black friends, he didn’t have a problem with “Africans” in general, just that rival gang in particular.
Hank who told you it’s Racist to object to immigration?
Who told you it’s Racist to feel uncomfortable around foreigners?
Who told you?
How many times have you been accosted in the street and called a racist by a person of a different tribe?
How many protests have there been by Sudanese against White Racism in this country?
Do you accept that most white people in this country are enamoured of black people via Hollywood stereotyping?
January 27th, 2010 at 11:13 pm bushrat(Quote)
What we have here, is the typical, sickening, overuse of the term rascist.
Yes, I think we all accept that there are rascists, but at the same time, it would seem that many of us would not recognize a rascist if one ran up and bit us on the arse!
I have even heard of the police being accused of rascism for issuing a description of suspects and mentioning thier obvious ancestry as a tool to be used to help identify and capture them!
That sort of distinction or description has NOTHING to do with rascism at all.
So “they” (gangs, robbers, kidnappers or whatever) are described as being “of (whatever colour) appearance” so what?
Are we now to turn a blind eye to catching criminals, because to mention thier ethnicity maght somehow disadvantege or offend them?
Fucking CRAP I say!
The REAL rascists are actually those damn pussycats who mercilessly harass poor defenceless dogs! Woof!
January 29th, 2010 at 6:47 pm Jay(Quote)
In this country “Racist” means White, it can be used to describe other people in other countries but in this place it has one meaning and one meaning only.
When I talk about Political Correctness I’m not talking about being polite, PC is a secular belief system that was designed from the ground up to fit into European societies.
There’s a good documentary out now called Defamation, in it a Rabbi explains that Anti Racism and Holocaust Remembrance is a way for secular Jews to express their faith, in fact it is a new type of faith.
Political Correctness is a type of faith designed for non religious White/Caucasian people, it’s exactly the same as this secular Jewish belief system or any number of alternative faiths.
PC is part of a Second Generation Communist system, the original Marxists knew from the start that Marx was wrong about the “Workers”, that they needed faith.
The first generation of Communists failed but the new breed have learned from their mistakes, they’ve moved with the times. They know that the underclass will never rise up, so now they have created new victims and new persecutors to form a two pronged approach.
The Immigrants, gays and Aboriginals are the new victims instead of commercial exploitation by capitalists. They’re under threat from Racism and intolerance from White people, we’re the new “Fascists”by virtue of our being the majority.
So alongside the Scientific Materialism of the Workers Struggle we have the Scientific Racism of the racial revolution. Don’t believe me go to the Socialist Alternative, or any of the other Marxist or anarchist websites.
The reason people like myself react so strongly to accusations of racism is that there is an element within society that seriously believes White people should be wiped out,either by assimilation with other races or directly killed. They glorify events like the murder of 40,000 White people in Haiti 200 years ago or the Murder of 7 million White people in Ukraine in the 1930′s.
The really sick part is that they are mostly White themselves, Racialised Marxism is a suicide cult which uses Soviet era brainwashing techniques to attract young people.
So if someone says we have a problem with Racism what they really mean is that we have a problem with White people.
Anti Racism is a code word for Anti White.
January 30th, 2010 at 2:29 pm bushrat(Quote)
Bang on the money, Jay!
I personally am looking forward to the end of the Mayan calender in 2012, hopefully most of the dip-shits will get wiped out, leaving a multi-coloured group of survivors with enough common dog fuck to stop it happening again!
Seriously, you are right. One has to wonder what Fraudien malady some of these people suffer from, doesn’t one?
February 22nd, 2010 at 1:07 pm m-jay(Quote)
i think this is ridiculouse VIC police treat sudanese young like dogs this not right, when u go to visit suadan u will see about of young sudanese walk as agroups that what they do.
if they now walk as groups here in australia people wil talk shit n police will follow them.
sometime people get aggessive cuz of the cop……….sudanese r not bad people they dont start trouble….
February 22nd, 2010 at 3:38 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Getting aggressive ‘cuz of the cop’ isn’t an acceptable excuse.
The Sudanese people as a whole might not be bad people but if you show me a group of young Sudanese men roaming the streets at night and ask me if their intentions are good or not I’m universally going to side with ‘not’.
Same as any other group with a history of group bashings.
February 27th, 2010 at 10:12 pm Jay(Quote)
None of that’s the African’s problem, it’s all a White problem, because only White children’s futures are affected by it.
No one is flooding Africa with non Africans, Africa’s future is African.
Africa for the Africans.
Asia for the Asians.
White countries for EVERYBODY.
April 26th, 2010 at 1:40 pm TS(Quote)
Sure racism exists, but it exists NATURALLY in every ethnic group and you’d be deluded to think that it’s some prejudice that only ‘white’ people have against non-whites.
But what really annoys me is people who are too stupid to think for themselves and simply label someone as racist because they raise a discussion about someone from another ethnic group. You are a big part of the problem as to why it is almost impossible to have a meaningful discussion on controlled immigration.
However, as long as people who know themselves to be racist make unfounded racist comments, know that you are also not helping the discussion. You are just making it easier for people to generalise that all Australians are racist and ignore the controlled immigration issue.
I think we would all just like for migrants to be from countries where they share similar cultural and religious values to the the rest of Australians and that they are not going to bring over the same problems from their original country.
April 28th, 2010 at 9:11 pm et(Quote)
Firstly, I want to know why you did nothing to help that poor Indian guy who was being robbed by the gang of thugs??? How can this be stopped if people like YOU ignore acts of violence like this? If the shoe was on the other foot, wouldn’t you want a witness to come forward and help you?
The only thing left to help keep down gang crime(or any other crime) with any race even our own is to demand the Australian Government change the judical system in this country and stop listening to the freakin do gooders.
I read Andrew Bolts’ comments in Wed April 28th Daily Telegraph. I must say we will be confronted with more and more crime from those who do not respect the country that they are now living in.
The attack on the Arncliffe RSL from those gutless Middle Eastern thugs is a prime example of the lack of respect they have. Would they go into a Mosque and commit the same rampage? I very much doubt it!
It seems those that are directly or indirectly associated with war and hate that they experienced from their own experiences or from the stories from their families are destined to carry on that hate no matter where they are.
April 28th, 2010 at 11:56 pm bushrat(Quote)
Not hard to explain mate, he would have been kicked to death by the shit with legs!
If he had somehow defended the poor bloke, the cops would probably have charged him and he would have worn something because he was a “rascist”.
Makes good PR to do something like that.
Oh goody we charged a rascist with belting a poor Sudanese reffo.
simple facts,
The law is fucked, there is no justice in Aussie anymore, Courts do not dispense justice, they make legal rulings, the coppers and politicians are as much good as a glass door on a shithouse, and the illegal immigrants will soon outnumber us all.
We will be second class citizens in our own land the same as the the poor bloody Fijians have become.
Stop the boat people. Stop them NOW – send out gunboats to sink them – I dont care. If they want to come here they must do it LEGALLY or face the consequences.
I dont THINK that I am a rascist, but maybe I am, I dont know. All I know is that I hate assholes equally no matter what colout they may be. Actually, some of the biggest assholes I ever met were WHITE, just like me!!!
Shit on all of them
April 29th, 2010 at 4:28 pm et(Quote)
I wasn’t suggesting he physically jump in there and go up against the assholes. I am sure the station has an or he might of had a mobile phone??? And besides there is CCTV footage, the police saw who was committing te crime. There are too many people who will sit back and say nothing. This is what i mean.
I am sorry but I blame ALL of the governments for not regulating the Immigration Policy when it came about. Your right about the lack of justice and the way things are handled.
God help us in the years to come…..but Australians must stick together and stop the bullshit.
April 29th, 2010 at 7:34 pm bushrat(Quote)
Yep, point taken, but calling the police is now mostly a waste of time. Let me give you an example;
About three years ago, my son and his mates, one of whom is disables and wheelchair bound, went out for a drive around, as young blokes do.
They happened to drive down the street of a know drug user/dealer, who jumped in his car and proceeded to chase them, trying to run them off the road.
His reason? His little brother was standing on the front porch and could have been run over! (and no, they were not speeding)
After finally getting away from this bloke, they went to the local police to ask for help and to report the incident, and the conversation went something like this ;
“there is no evidence, we cant do anything”
“Hang on on there are four of us and we are all prepared to give you a statement”
“Sorry, weve got better things to do than worry about this”
“But this bloke has threatened us, what can we do?”
“If your that worried, hire a security guard to ride around with you”
Like I said, coppers are a fucking joke. In NSW most of the new crop are uni educated, not street wise, would be could be bloody legal eagles. Fucking waste of time calling them.
I live in a 40k school zone, cars come past DAILY at 80 and 90, call the cops and the council and the reply is, “we cant catch anyone” More bullshit! Some poor bloody kid will have to die, and then they will all wring thier hands and sternly warn people about speeding. But they wont act.
Dont get me wrong, I had thirty years in security related work, and spent a good lot of my time working with the police, and there were, (and are) some damn good ones. Unfortunately, I think its all become just too hard for most of them.
April 29th, 2010 at 9:06 pm et(Quote)
You hit the nail on the head Kim. The laws in this country are similar to where half these crims come from…………….the 3rd world.
April 29th, 2010 at 11:18 pm White Dude(Quote)
Hey Guys, I would like to talk more about that night of the “bashing”. Yes I could have done something such as call the police or even jump in to help, but what would the point be? the police are a joke they do nothing anyway!, and if I jumped in yes they would have started on me. I think if there wasnt so many of them I most likely would have jumped in and helped.
As far as CCTV footage goes, they got this guy just after the car tunnel, underpass, Which means there was no camera.
It’s so not fair that this sort of crap happens all the time, and that these little bastards get away with it.
Just the other day on the weekend I went to a club, lots of ‘black’ people go there, I have friends from every colour so that doesn’t bother me. anyway I was out the front and I said hey to a guy (who was black) had a little joke with him, and took it the wrong way he acted way over the top and thought i called him gay and that i was being racist etc, so then he says “ima get my cuz here to sort u out”. His cousin comes over and was as friendly as ever, and even laughed at the whole thing.
I just think we live in a crazy mixed up world, and I sometimes pinch myself to see if i am dreaming?, oh crap I’m awake, then I realise having a dream is way better than living in this world, but hey life goes on.
April 30th, 2010 at 11:44 am bushrat(Quote)
My point exactly. You did the smart thing, so dont let anyone criticise you for that. And yair, we do live in a crazy world. But fear not! If the conspiracy theorists are right, Planet X will be here in 2012 and most of the population wil be GONE BABY!
Mind you, the sons of bitches will STILL find SOMETHING to fight about!
May 1st, 2010 at 5:28 am ozsoapbox(Quote)
I think a big part of the problem re. police non-intervention is that yeah sure, they can catch people but what then?
Look at some of the bullshit sentences the Australian courts hand out for what sound like some pretty major crimes. What’s the point in even catching someone who allegedly chased a car around the block.
Hows that gunna go in court?
‘So you’re only evidence are these statements from these four young men who claim the defendant was chasing them… really fast?’
‘uh.. yeah.’
‘Right, well my judgement is that the defendant write a strongly worded letter of apology to all for of the “victims”. NEXT!’
‘So… how many police hours did we waste on this case again?’
I imagine out of the academy they’ve probably got some spirit but it wouldn’t take more then a few crappy sentences to crush them. I kinda don’t blame them.
May 1st, 2010 at 9:32 am Douglas(Quote)
Apparently in Victoria , when describing people , who have committed an offence , the only categories you can use , are caucasion, asian, aboriginal and i think its dark or olive complexion, you cannot say “african”….they’ve lost the plot down there when it comes to crime , look how long it took then to lock up Carl willimas
May 1st, 2010 at 9:49 am bushrat(Quote)
Yep, up here thy are great out of the gate, but about six months on, after a few times in court, all the eagerness is gone, then they just drop the ball.
But they still should get off thier arses and go and “have a chat” to somebody who is out of line and being a threat to the community.
Back in the day, a little old fashioned policing went a hell of a long way, and rarely got to court, phone books anyone?…………………………………..
May 11th, 2010 at 3:34 pm et(Quote)
By the way…did they catch the animals that bashed that guy at Sunhine station? I also hear where some CCTV cameras are going to be taken away from some stations in NSW because of funding reasons??
YEAH aren’t we a fantastic state!!!! WTF
May 11th, 2010 at 3:49 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Three men were arrested last March but after that I don’t think there was any news on them. Probably means they got off with a couple of hours community service.
Is that because of vandalism or what? I fail to see how having a CCTV camera operational is a drain on financial resources?
May 11th, 2010 at 7:33 pm bushrat(Quote)
The whole problem comes down to piss weak judges and lawyers who defend scum who in a perfect world would just be taken out and knocked on the head. I personally think that is the basic problem, there are too many shitheads walking around who know thier rights, have clever prick lawyers, and no regard whatsoever for you and me, our families or society as a whole.
Fuck them, I say exterminate the whole lot of them and to hell with the politically correct, if they open thier fucking gobs, kill them too.
We really need a good shit war to fix it all up.
May 11th, 2010 at 7:35 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Woah between Tasmania bashing and Sudanese crime someone’s had a good dose of the angry juice this week!
I agree with the sentiment but take it easy champ
. Starting to sound a bit world war 2 there lol.
May 11th, 2010 at 11:06 pm bushrat(Quote)
Yep, Ive got plenty of anger this week, and last week, and the week before, and ……..
Fact is, I’ve had people (one in particular but we wont go there)! sprinkling shot on my Wheaties for months.
I just get so damn frustrated at seeing these shit-with-legs people look-alikes (my way of saying fring humans) get away with thier crap, while the rest of us just get told we have to suck it up.
Anyone else getting more than pissed off, or is it just me?
Maybe I’ve finally gone the Full Rat!
May 11th, 2010 at 11:07 pm bushrat(Quote)
That should have read fringe-humans
May 12th, 2010 at 12:48 am White Dude(Quote)
Hey again, I just wanted to give everyone on here an update on the “thugs” who bashed the guy at the station. All three men actually got locked up for what they did until around late November last year.
One of my friends is the girlfriend to the guy in the red I think it is, and I also happen to know him, I wouldn’t say we are great friends but when we see each other we get along great. He is very decent guy to know, it’s just a shame he did something so stupid, as for the others they are just violent losers either way.
I really just hope the next generation of Sudanese become more “australianised” so this hopefully will no longer be an issue, and hopefully the current sudes grow out of their “American thug” ways and just accept the Aussie way of life.
Maybe it’s just wishful thinking on my part?
May 12th, 2010 at 5:47 am ozsoapbox(Quote)
Thanks for the update mate.
You say that your friend’s boyfriend involved in the attack is a very decent guy, any idea what led to the attack then?
I have a hard time believing anyone decent would be involved in an attack like that. I’d also be a bit worried about one of my friends being his girlfriend!
May 12th, 2010 at 12:00 pm bushrat(Quote)
Good to see that these guys got more than just the standard “youve been a naughty boy, havent you” slap on the wrist.
Like Oz, I would worry too about a friend being involved with this sort of person, but I guess its true what they say, love is blind (as well as stupid at times)
I too would be interested to know what started the attack, simply because that is what must be looked at to avoid repeats of such incidents.
I wonder if these people ever consider for a moment the problems they are creating for the decent people in thier respective ethnic groups by acting in this way, and how angry and uneasy it makes society feel in general? Probably not.
Lets hope its not wishful thinking on your part and our guests improve both thier manners and thier image.
May 12th, 2010 at 6:53 pm White Dude(Quote)
My friend has been involved with this dude for over five years now, they have a child together, in fact my friend is from Chile and its quite strange she would choose to be with a guy like him??..
Now as I understand it, the attack happened in a strange way. All three men were high and drunk at the time of attack (that’s still no excuse for the attack) but this would have certainly motivated it.
Apparently they asked they guy for a spare smoke and he said he had none, then as we walked off he said something along the lines of: “even if I did I wouldnt give one to a bunch of niggers”.
Now to be honest I find that hard to believe, as most “criminal Sudanese” play the race card to justify what they do, so really its just one of those real mysteries to what really went down.
May 13th, 2010 at 10:59 am bushrat(Quote)
So we can reasonably assume that the great god of drugs and piss has once again reared its ugly head and struck?
When is the government going to get fair dinkum with these issues and DO SOMETHING?
May 13th, 2010 at 5:03 pm White Dude(Quote)
I totally agree with you, People are getting out of control here and all the government are really doing about it is raising the price of alcohol which really does nothing.
for people who are ‘naturally’ violent these things enhance there tendencies towards destruction.
May 13th, 2010 at 5:20 pm bushrat(Quote)
Yep, and there are so many other examples of piss poor leadership and laws. Just look at the tragic mess that the family law act and the child support agency has become, where one sided injustice is the norm, and indeed encouraged by the way the laws are written.
It seems to me that persons or persons unknown have deliberately embarked on a course of policy making intened to destroy the very fabric of our society.
Like the case on tv the other night where the mum eveicted her kids from thier rooms because, despite repeated requests and warnings, they wouldnt keep them clean, made the little buggers sleep on matteresses in the hallway.
Now me personally, I say good on her, but now all the “academics” apparently are baying about it. Truly, with fuckwits like these being heard and taken notice of, what chance do we have as a nation and a society?
It is certainly time for a whole new approach to be taken to every aspect of our society, political and justice systems.
Got to go and have some more “angry juice” (I like that one, Oz!)
May 13th, 2010 at 7:31 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
I’m gunna call bs on this one. For starters it’s one on 3, why would the guy provoke them. Secondly they seem remarkably co-ordinated physically for people that are high and drunk.
If the guy had the balls to call them niggers I doubt he’d just sit there and take the belting either. Just doesn’t add up.
May 14th, 2010 at 7:58 am bushrat(Quote)
Like the rest of us I watched the video, I agree – it’s BS.
May 14th, 2010 at 5:40 pm White Dude(Quote)
I am only going by what I was told, but having said that I really don’t buy the story either.
I guess it’s just an excuse to justify their wrong doing, it’s as simple as that really.
May 17th, 2010 at 4:26 pm White Dude(Quote)
I have to admit I totally agree with you every little bit, and just to let you know, all three men have been released and are now free on the street. I happen to know where these people live so hmmm what could be done??
May 17th, 2010 at 4:28 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Woah looks like the white supremisists have come out to play.
Won’t your friend be upset if uh… something happened to her boyfriend?
May 17th, 2010 at 4:37 pm et(Quote)
I agree with ozsoapbox……how can anyone “decent” commit a crime like that? Sorry White dude, he is a waste of space like his mates.
May 17th, 2010 at 4:47 pm et(Quote)
Whitedude….you say one of the attackers is a good guy and now you boasting you know where they live and asking suggestions on what can be done?? You go be the hero and “do” something. Grow a brain buddy
May 18th, 2010 at 12:41 am White Dude(Quote)
HeHe, fun in the forum finally, I deliberately wrote that comment to see how people would react. The truth is yes they have been released, but no way I would never really condone any sort of “vigilante” style attack on them.
If they ‘stuff up’ again in sure the justice system will hopefully work as it amazingly did the first time to put them behind bars.
May 18th, 2010 at 1:47 am ozsoapbox(Quote)
Seem to have had a bunch of comments from openly racist folks recently.
I don’t mind stereotypes or discussing racial matters but just insulting people randomly for the sake of their race adds nothing to the discussion.
These sorts of comments won’t be published.
May 18th, 2010 at 11:06 am et(Quote)
I am actually surprised the comment on May 17th at 3.51pm was passed? I am enjoying the debates on here and reading those that want to cause harm have no place on here.
Its always a Government funding issue that affects the issues of peoples health or safety. When is it going to end??
May 18th, 2010 at 12:11 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Oops missed that one. There was a whole bunch of them yesterday, presumably they all came from the same place.
May 18th, 2010 at 5:02 pm Matt(Quote)
Clearly you are a bunch of racists who don’t beleive in free speech or democracy. Why don’t you move to Africa and stop bludging of White Society.
It’s easy to be Anti-White living in Australia, why don’t you move to Sudan and see how long you last. It’s racist, elist people like you who are destroying our once proud nation.
You’re probably going to block me again, but before you do why don’t tell me where free speech exists anywhere in the world or on the internet.
May 18th, 2010 at 5:21 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
You’re free to discuss race issues on here (I do all the time via articles) but calling on people to kill others purely because of their ethnicity isn’t on.
And if that makes me anti-white, racist and elite then so be it. I personally find it a hilarious call.
May 18th, 2010 at 6:00 pm Matt(Quote)
That’s easy to say from your Toorak mansion, because you never venture outside and you certainly don’t use public transport.
Since you haven’t answered my question I can only assume that free speech does not exist anywhere in the world or on the internet.
Only wealthy elite people like you will be able to survive in the future, the rest of us will be raped or murdered for the colour of our skin. Why don’t you move to Zimbabwe?
May 18th, 2010 at 6:07 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Public transport is for plebs. Why bother with it when I can travel in my slave powered chariot.
Never in my wildest dreams did I envisage that OzSoapbox would encompass the entire internet, let alone the world but hey… mission accomplished. I guess there’s nothing left for me to write about now.
So long as I survive that’s alright. Whatever happens to the rest of you peasants is none of my concern. Now haven’t you got a field to return tending to? My dinner isn’t going to grow itself.
May 18th, 2010 at 6:14 pm bushrat(Quote)
Er, hang on, did I miss something here??!! Lets see ….. we are rascists, and we should move to Africa and stop bludging off white Australia?
Hmm, gotta think about that one for a while………..
May 18th, 2010 at 6:23 pm bushrat(Quote)
OK, I have thought about it.
I reckon we should all petition the Government to ban the use of the word “rascist” until people learn what it means and how to use it in the right context!
May 18th, 2010 at 6:29 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Hang on a sec, that’d be racist against racist people.
Why would you make such a racist suggestion…?
May 18th, 2010 at 7:23 pm bushrat(Quote)
Umm, OH SHIT! I never even considered that point!, Ahh, then if we are being rascist against the rascists, then the rascists arent being rascist against us because they are not rascists, therefore, we must all strive to treat ourselves with the utmost dispespect because we are not rascists, unless of course we are then it would make no friggin sense at all!
I think I need a valium or something……………
May 19th, 2010 at 12:28 pm Matt(Quote)
Would you at least agree that the attack was barbaric, racist, in-human and un-Australian. That they received a slap on the wrist and that there is no justice for the poor in Australia.
May 19th, 2010 at 1:36 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
I’d agree it was barbaric but I’m not too fond of the word un-Australian when it comes to crime. It’s not like ‘Australian’s’ don’t commit their fair share of horrendous crime.
As for racist, from what I’ve seen the Sudanese involved in gang activity violence and what not seem to be a bit indiscriminate. They machete/bash eachother and anyone else who gets in their way, regardless of race/ethnicity. Ironically you could say the Sudanese are role models for non-racially motivated crime.
Slap on the wrist I agree with.
May 19th, 2010 at 3:03 pm Matt(Quote)
Why do we waste money on a defence force, when our government has already given our country to the Third World.
Anyone who want’s to come here just gets on a boat, then enjoys a free ride, living better than many Aussies.
I wish I could just get on a boat and be accepted into England or America.
May 19th, 2010 at 5:11 pm bushrat(Quote)
I’ve said it before and now I’m gonna say it again – no race has a monopoly on arseholes, these ones just happen to be Sudanese.
My proposal is simple and workable, if you come to this country, either as an immigrant or as a refugee, and are convicted of a serious criminal offence within ten years, you get put on a plane, in restraints, and fucked off back to where you came from. Any assets you have are confiscated and paid to your victim as compensation (that guy would have got a couple of pairs of really cool kicking joggers and some wicked baseball caps)
Sitting beside you would be your family, also getting fucked off out of the place.
What an example and deterrent that would be!
Of course it will never happen because our leaders are too timid to even contemplate rocking the racist boat, so I suppose we just have to suck it up like the plebs we have become, dont we?
May 20th, 2010 at 1:53 pm Madison(Quote)
I live in rural New South Wales and have noticed that an enormous number of Sudanese people are moving into the small town that I call home. I don’t quite know why this is; is it government mandated to move them to rural areas to increase their ‘racial diversity’ and keep them out of the cities, or are they just moving to the country on their own accord?
A few days ago I had the windshield of my car bashed in by a group of Sudanese youths for no discernible reason, so they seem to be causing trouble regardless of where they’re ending up.
Regardless, Professor Andrew Fraser spoke candidly about this several years ago while he was still at Macquarie University. He said we should expect disproportionate levels of violent, impulsive and indiscriminate crime to be committed by their cohort. And that’s precisely what we’re getting.
I wouldn’t really be surprised if the average IQ of these Sudanese refugees was only about 70 or 75; by and large, they are evidently are not a particularly sharp people and exhibit typically ‘African’ characteristics like impulsivity, ‘time-horizon’ issues, improvidence and a tendency towards horrible violence and criminality.
This is more or less observed in just about every African population in any region on the planet, a fact only the mindless and mendacious czars of biological egalitarianism are incapable of realising. African immigration should be halted immediately; I don’t know why anybody could possibly consider it a good idea.
May 20th, 2010 at 4:27 pm Matt(Quote)
He must have been a pretty tough guy to have uttered a racist comment when out-numbered. Then taken a beating like that and walked away from it, has he done any media interviews yet or is he too frightned of being killed next time.
May 22nd, 2010 at 10:07 am bushrat(Quote)
Madison, you are right.and I will get in first on this one, THESE ARE NOT RACIST COMMENTS! There, thats ben said.
I recall reading as a youth, of an experiment where a monkey was taught to fly an aircraft, and he did it well, but could not develop the skill to place himself ahead of what was happening in his immediate time frame. This is a mandatory skill if you are a pilot. Perhaps this is what you refer to as “time horizon” issues.
The area I live in in now also becoming increasingly populated by these surly, sneering, openly adversarial, pack running people, and there is some unease beginning to develop already in the local community.
I think the whole point that is escaping everyone, including and especially the government is that these for the most part are people who are only just becoming civilised, and still have thier tribal instincts well and truly hard wired in as a primary guide.
Should we be bringing them here? No. By all means help them re-settle in another African country, but not here.
Will they assimilate? No. They will take over using thier tribal mentality, to the detriment of us all.
Just another example of the stupidity of government. It is time for a new political group to be formed with enough common sense to realise that our Australian way of life is worthy of preservation.
Election this year people, DONT FORGET ALL THIS WHEN YOU VOTE!!!
May 22nd, 2010 at 1:01 pm Madison(Quote)
“I recall reading as a youth, of an experiment where a monkey was taught to fly an aircraft, and he did it well, but could not develop the skill to place himself ahead of what was happening in his immediate time frame. This is a mandatory skill if you are a pilot. Perhaps this is what you refer to as “time horizon” issues.”
The so called “time horizon” is conceptualization used to try to try to explain the pheneomenon that individuals tend to greatly vary in their ability to defer gratification and ultimately from this, plan for the future.
The time-horizon effect has been noted to not only vary between individuals, but between human-groups as well. An old experiment that has been conducted many times (with always the same result) consists of offering two groups of children, one group black, one group white, a choice between a candy bar today or three candy bars three days later. Black children pick the immmediate candy bar at a much higher rate than white children.
There’s a different psychological approach to how both groups tend to operate in such a situation; white (and to an even greater extent, Asian) children will put off their immediate urges for greater reward, while the black children would rather gratify themselves on the spot rather than sacrifice that for even greater satisfaction later.
The real world effects of this can be noted in all sorts of social indexes and measures, so studies of this kind certainly have real world validity.
I don’t know why you can point out the truth of my comments but at the same time qualify them with “they’re not racist”. What is the definition of racist?
I remember reading one definition in a particular dictionary that was something along the lines of “the belief that certain races tend to differ, on the average, in measurable traits that influence their capacity for civilization, law-abidingness, etc, etc.”.
If believing that different human populations do, or possibly, do differ on certain traits, psychological or physical, that are integral and essential to the construction and maintenance of complex civilization is “racist”, then I’m guilty as charged.
To suggest that there was no way that evolution didn’t stop “at the neck and up”, or that human beings are somehow exempt from the natural processes of evolution, is the REAL absurdity, not so-called “racism”. Don’t worry about that word; it’s particularly meaningless and really only used a a political club to silence and stifle serious debate on these issues.
May 22nd, 2010 at 8:55 pm bushrat(Quote)
I can assure you Madison, that I dont give a damn about that word, as you rightly say it is a meaningless thing.
I qualified with the remark about it not being racist, to hopefully silence some of the more rabid ranters, who see racists under every stone and find them in every converstion. I have lost count of the times I have been acused of racism for simply offering up an opinion, a spade is a spade, after all. Now I really dont give a toss who calls me these things, as I know that I am not.
Probably these ratbags were descended from those who saw “reds under the beds” in the 60′s
I hope that these problems get sorted out in your town, it’s not nice having this sort of rubbish going on and feeling that nothing is being done.
Perhaps a petition to remedie the situation sent to your federal member would be in order?
May 23rd, 2010 at 2:18 am Madison(Quote)
I don’t think we can really trust anybody in the government to listen to us on this issue, let alone do anything about it.
May 23rd, 2010 at 9:53 am bushrat(Quote)
True, I cant quite make up my mind whether they
a) Dont care
b) Dont understand
c) Are just plain stupid
Probably all of the above …………………….
Like I said, we need an alternative political group very badly, and we need it now, before the damage becomes irreversible.
May 26th, 2010 at 9:42 am et(Quote)
Then why don’t you go try Matt?
Have you voiced your “free speech” to your local member? Violence isn’t the answer that would be lowering ourselves to their level.
I think there is alot more to Matt then he is letting on?
May 26th, 2010 at 1:20 pm Matt(Quote)
Really? What do you mean?
July 19th, 2010 at 3:35 pm PAULO SILVA(Quote)
Dear readers and writers, it seems like this debate of settlement has brought about semiliar debates in past as it will do in the future.
Everyone is looking for someone to blame for actions of violence and lay out their justice. I can understand that some of these attacks are unprovoked and that there is a need to exercise caution when they discribe a group of black man as gangs, becasue the majority of these groups stick together for unity and sense of belonging and not because they are looking for trouble.
However if a group of anglo australians gather at a train station and target people these events are often not publicised by the media. Like someone said; there is no such such thing as a “multicultural paradise” without casualties. Perhaps it is important for all of us to never forget the racial attacks in Sydney.
Before the sudanese arrived in Australia the Vietnamise, Kambodian and Laoasian communities were the problem, before them they were the Greeks and the Italians. The best way to find a peacefull solution is to work and support these communities and their leaders.
Now it’s time to face the facts instead of trying to deport people or preventing these people from camming to Australia. Violence has no place in this society, howver we know that the main Australian sport instgates violence and AFL players and fans have fights every week end. So were do we draw the line?
Why is that the minority is allways used as a escape goat?
July 20th, 2010 at 11:52 am bushrat(Quote)
And once again, the discussion comes back to the REAL problem,
the “law” and how it is administered in an ad-hoc manner by the courts.
There is far too much leniency shown for lawbreakers, and we have a situation now where the reality is simply this;
The better your lawyer, and the more he/she can cloud the issue with the social problems the accused suffered during childhood, or the colour of ones skin, the better will be the accused persons outcome in sentancing.
It’s just wrong, all wrong.
The worst part is that it will, in all liklihood never change.
July 20th, 2010 at 1:49 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Whilst jumping the gun can lead to problems, almost universally in Australia when the media refer to a group of black people in relation to crime they are talking about Aborigines or Sudanese youths.
Even if they don’t explicitly mention it always comes out sooner or later, every time.
No they don’t. They stick in these gangs because that’s what they had to to back home to survive. It’s the ‘nobody’s gunna mess with me if I’ve got another ten anorexic looking mates standing with me yo’ mentality. If they want unity and a sense of belonging all they have to do is stop trying to act like terry tough cunts and integrate with society.
Oh please, Indian bashings anyone? Even though half the time it’s the Sudanese beating Indians up the first reaction from the Indian media is always ‘Anglos beating the crap out of us – here we go again!’
Whilst I agree it’s in our best interest so find a peaceful solution to the Sudanese already living in Australia, there doesn’t appear to be any public leaders to discuss anything with. Just a bunch of randoms running around looking out for themselves and beating up anyone that gets in their way.
We draw the line at any violence. Treat the violent AFL fans the same as violent Sudanese gangs. Zero tolerance.
None of this police avoiding certain areas because they don’t want to have to deal with violent minorities crap that’s currently going on.
Because when the majority of a minority are engaged in senseless violence against a society that is supporting them it’s no longer scapegoating. It’s statistical fact.
July 20th, 2010 at 8:26 pm bushrat(Quote)
Another inescapable fact is that the majority on this forum and others know EXACTLY what the problems are. We know the groups in society of all ethnic groups (including white) that are causing the problems, and still nothing is done.
I wonder, are there any magistrates, lawyers, police, civil libertarians or politicians reading this thread?
I for one would be most interested in the opinions of those professions regarding this problem.
August 24th, 2010 at 4:33 pm Gazza(Quote)
I just sold my house and moved from Werribee because of the black gangs roaming around wearing LA gangster clothes, all “blinged” up and wearing red or blue rags on their heads and putting coloured rags over the power lines to mark their territory.
I’m sick of the leftwing tactics of calling people “racist” everytime someone raises the issue and the FACT that most of the attacks are swept under the carpet by the media, my mate knocked a black teenager off his bike when he snatched the handbag off an old woman with a walking frame, the newspaper were all excited and wanted to run a story until they found out he was black and the story got dropped!
Another friend of mine has had his 14 year old daughter attacked twice in 6 months, once while sitting in a parked car, both times by black males! Every week someone is getting attacked in Werribee/Wyndham Vale!
August 24th, 2010 at 6:19 pm bushrat(Quote)
Its called being above the law………………
One day we may wake up and elect somebody who will put things right, where are you Pauline?
September 12th, 2010 at 11:03 pm Fiona(Quote)
I work with the Sudanese community and have many friends within it – they are the most hospitable of people. Pity you don’t really interact with any Sudanese, and just rely on sensationalism.
September 14th, 2010 at 2:23 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Anyone in Melbourne who wants to interact with the Sudanese community need only venture out into the western suburbs. Just stay away from the train stations or your ‘most hospitable people’ dreams might be shattered.
And I encountered quite a few of them working in a previous job.
September 14th, 2010 at 3:52 pm Gazza(Quote)
I’m sure the young bloke who “interacted” with these lovely people on the video would disagree, Theres more out there than the ones you work with, i have reletives in the police force who come in contact with them regularly who tell a very different story to “hospitable”!!!
October 22nd, 2010 at 7:35 am et(Quote)
Yes, we loose sight that there are good and bad in EVERY RACE. I know that and I would dare say 99.9% of the world knows this.
However, it is a problem in this country that any gangs or acts of violence are not treated with the utmost importance.
And it is a fact that SOME of the immigrants that come here from war torn countries do bring their hate with them……….and they pass it on to their children.
Gangs need to be eliminated from this country no matter what race they are. As a democratic society and tax paying citizens we have the right to feel safe.
We are a lucky country, but if we are complacent, we will be looking down the barrel of an uncertain future.
February 8th, 2011 at 11:12 pm Frodo(Quote)
All the anglo-saxon countries like Canada, Australia, United Kingdom was happy to go to war with Hitler who wanted to stop race mixing.
Nowadays I hear nothing but whining from these countries that minorities did this and that. What can I say ? Eat what you cooked !
February 10th, 2011 at 3:53 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
@Frodo
There’s a difference between genocide and encouraging minorities not to integrate into greater society.
A rather large difference at that.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:42 pm Gazza(Quote)
@ Paulo Silva, What a croc’!!! They arent “just hanging together” for a sense of belonging, They are running in gangs wearing Colours and trying to emulate the LA gangster scene, to say before them was etc..is ludicris, we never had the problems with the Greek and Italian migrants that we have with these people, They got a bad run for about 25 years being called wogs but at the end of the day it was out of suspition because we had just come through the war, all they did was grab hold of their opertunity and worked hard to make a life for themselves and to say its never reported when white people comit crime is laughable, Whites are the ONLY ones reported on, the media is too scared to tell the truth about migrant crims because they KNOW they’ll be called racist, I know this FIRST HAND when a thug snatched a handbag from a woman in her 80s, a mate of mine stopped him until the police came and the media was going to run a hero story on my mate until they found the bad guy was black and they canned the story! Dont tell me the migrants get it hard thats just bullshit!
April 29th, 2011 at 3:10 am Veronique(Quote)
Why should they care. They will be lucky to get a smack on the wrist from our two tiered legal system. These kind of refugees are like lepers. They are untouchable!
Why is our immigration Dept letting these people in? Many of them are the perpetrators of atrocities against the christians that we should be letting in.
But no, the socialists will say it was because they were treated badly in their own countries, they haven’t got anything to do with their time, or we are persecuting them.
They don’t belong here! They never did! Send them back!
May 1st, 2011 at 1:41 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
@Veronique
Wait what? Australia’s immigration policy should favour Christians? Uh, no thanks.
I agree that any non-citizen should be deported for committing crimes such as this (or the three nights of violence revolving around those the stupid Sudanese beauty pageant), but restricting our immigration policy on the basis of religion is ridiculous (yes, that even goes for Islam).
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January 14th, 2012 at 12:10 pm Jeff(Quote)
I’ve worked with people from all cultures and religions. As a Turk once said to me ‘respect is the universal language’. It usually is true.After being bashed and robbed by three sudanese thugs, I have PTSD (it was a viscious but very quick bashing for $50 and my mobile phone).
These savages have tranformed a normally easy-going guy into a strident opponent of third-world immigration.How many more of us are out there?
I now wish africans, south asians, east asians and muslims to get out of our once great nation. Whilst not supporting violence towards the non-integratible invaders, enough is enough.