susispice: But we cant go around researching if a particular word for products is racist to someone somewhere in the world when we have no connection to the historical reasons that affect them.

Spot on, if you are in the US, NEVER use the word “Blokes” , I made the mistake once of approaching a couple of African Americans in L.A. and saying, “Can you blokes tell me where I can catch a cab”? They thought I said “can you BLACKS ………..”!
I came very close to getting the living shit beat out of me, but fortunately, they realised in time it was not an offensive comment! Also over there, “Pissed” means annoyed, whilst being totally pissed (in our language) is referred to as being “Shit faced”

Oh dear, ya gotta love the different meanings of the english language!

Which of course, is the point to the whole damn thing, ANYONE can take offence at ANYTHING if they are a narrow minded, bigoted, half brained fruit cake, (I’ve almost certainly caused offence to someone somewhere with that sentance) but hey, stiff shit!

This type of person, I am certain, gets thier jollies from finding things to be offended about. It really is thier problem, but only until it starts to intrude on the rest of us biscuit lovers!

Just to confuse the biscuit renamers, below is a quote in part from good old Wikipedia, juste Google “Creole” to read the lot.

The term Creole and its cognates in other languages — such as crioulo, criollo, créole, kriolu, criol, kreyol, kriulo, kriol, krio, kreol, etc. — have been applied to people in different countries and epochs, with rather different meanings. Those terms are almost always used in the general area of present or former colonies in other continents, and originally referred to locally born people with foreign ancestry.

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Ok, so what that means to me, is that probably 90% of the population of Australia could be classed as “Creole” (!!!!)

I therefore wish to make it known that as a Aussie Creole, I am not offended, and indeed FUCKING PROUD to have a biscuit named after me!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creole_language

Australia has its own racism problems and the ones that cry out that we dont have problems are the ones probably perpertrating it. But we cant go around researching if a particular word for products is racist to someone somewhere in the world when we have no connection to the historical reasons that affect them.

any moment now harry connick jnr will prob say something about this too…

MitH: why the rage
as you said its just a biscuit (name)
sure, in the US its relevant and worth stamping you feet for.
in AU its just a random name with no ‘cultural heritage’ so they ditched it without a second thought

Rant? Rant? THAT wasn’t a Rant!! What that was, in fact, was a cry for help from that great Aussie icon, THE BLACKBOY TREE, which, sadly suffered a similar loss of identity some years ago. I would add at this time that the Aboriginal people used to refer to the Blackboy tree as – “Blackboy tree”!!

The point I am trying to make is this. If we let “people”, of whatever colour or creed (yes, including WHITE people) begin to vilify objects with rascist tags, then, let me tell you – its all over!

Could somebody please explain how, in the future, one would go to a paint shop and buy a can of black paint? Would you have to do what you did in the 50’s when buying condoms, and write your request on a piece of paper and wait till the male pharmacist was free so the note could be slyly passed to him?

I would be the first to agree that there are some extremely race biased things said and done, but biscuits just doesnt do anything for me except maybe, well, make me do my bloody biscuit.

The article that started this thread, albeit tongue in cheek, is spot on!

sure, in the US its relevant and worth stamping you feet for.
in AU its just a random name with no ‘cultural heritage’ so they ditched it without a second thought

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It’s not about the bloody biscuits, it’s about the damn PRINCIPLE of the matter.

In the 60 years I have spent on this planet (most of them here) I think I am more than qualified to make a couple of observations.

1: Biscuits are just that – biscuits

2: Politically correct people are a noisy, nuisence minority of closet wombats, out to destroy the fabric of our country and way of life, for the most obscure of reasons only understood by themselves.

3: While we are on the subject, ENOUGH of this crap about banning Christmas displays etc. because it may offend some minority asshole, who has prevailed upon the generosity of this country to grant him/her the priviledge of living here!

4: Eternal damnation and a pox in general on all apologist politicians, do-gooders, trouble makers and general bloody ratbags who have all but destroyed the Australian dream.

5: I grew up in Sydney in the 50’s, my best mate was Greek, my neighbours were Italian, across the road we had Aboriginal people, also in our streets were Germans, Dutch, Jewish people, you name it.

And guess what? WE ALL GOT ALONG JUST FINE! Shock, horror some will say, but where were the “rascists”, where were the rights to complain about something that offended only you? Simple, the rascists had the right to be that way, and got ignored, or if they said something really offensive, copped a good smack in the gob, and that was the end of it. If you didnt like something, and the majority did, then you just accepted that it was the choice of the majority, and maybe you were not looking at it the right way. In short, using todays venacular, you got over it!

Now, just for the record, my wife is of Italian ancestry, and we have Greek and Aboriginal descended people in our family. Just in case anybody wants to start throwing the “R” word around, cause I’m not! The only race I despise are idiots, and unfortunately, no ethnic group has a monopoly on this stupidity.

This bloke makes me sick to my stomach, with his petty bloody nonsense, but even worse, is the fact that there are actually people out there who cant see this nonsense for what it is and AGREE with him, or are prepared to go along with it for the sake of being seen to be politically correct.

Creole is offensive? Sorry, dont think so. I have visited the US and Canada several times, and can tell you that you will find the word “Creole” on menu’s in nearly every state.
Creole restaurants abound (it is a recognised cuisine – VERY TASTY too I might add, along with my other favourite, CAJUN) and there are, I believe even Creole clubs, New Orleans has many people who trace thier ancestry back to these origins, and call themselves – wait for it CREOLE’S!
Oh God, now ive really friggin gone and done it! But seriously, if the Creole people in America dont find the term offensive, why the hell does ONE Aboriginal think he has the right to do this over a FUCKING BISCUIT! Jeez, a bloody man could go completely nutso-ratso over this crap! (oops, should’nt have said that)

Seems to me that there are a hell of a lot of people in Australia who dont have a bloody clue what they are talking about.

I honestly do fear that our gene pool has become irreversibly contaminated!

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Coles amongst other supermarkets spend a ton on marketing research so it doesn’t surprise me it’s not too hard to see where they got their product name inspiration from.

Not that Captain save-the-world-from-racism up in Queensland would appreciate this.

I did find a Creole dessert called “Doberge cake” which is a layered chocolate cake with layers of cream.

And it (can) look like this:

http://www.haydelbakery.com/_images/cakes/cake_doberge.jpg

And while looking for pictures of the cake, I came across this ice cream shop called the “Creole Creamery” in New Orleans – is someone going to call this joint racist and get it shut down?
http://www.creolecreamery.com/

Although this isn’t a “Doberge cake”, it is a “‘cake’ cookie”, and looks similar to a “Creole Cream” (except it’s fresh)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__SyERiEnMQA/SihodvHunnI/AAAAAAAAAB8/3lJBwgzWDiQ/s1600-h/cake+cookies.jpg

And with all of this sorta conclusion jumping they could’ve named the biscuit “Creole Creams” for no reason whatsoever, or because they were inspired by chocolate and cream layered Doberge Cakes.

blah blah,
yours in Boredom,

Given it was on the shelves for 3 years with no complaints until some academic activist with nothing better to do decided to make it his agenda, I kinda have a problem with that.

Moreso the fact that Coles actually listened to the guy.

think of other names that are spoken about in muttered tones

lovin spoonful, 10cc, etc each have other meanings
buttholesurfers (well maybe not that one)

shihad changed to something else (pacifier) because touring and marketing worked against the name
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shihad
now back as shihad because of their profile and history

the cookies are a simple package change, like the hype about isnack etc (iFail), move on

light reading in euphemisms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphemism

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the name is ‘random’ and devise (poorly) by the maker and retailer

What names aren’t random though? Look at half the products in the supermarket, Mars bars, Tim Tams, Phildadelphia cream cheese etc. Most products are seemingly randomly named.

other product/styles that match the description of the article are more relevent to the name given and used this one isnt

True but does every product name have to have relevancy?

perhaps better thought will be used in naming things from now on

why stay in the stoneage with un-PC names etc

I’d wager political correctness didn’t exist back in the stone age. What saddens me is the continual influence on society by a minority in the name of political correctness.

I mean seriously, does anybody believe Coles named the bisucuits Creoles because they were racist? I’m sure some research went into the product name (supermarkets spend a truckload on marketing research) and the product has been on the shelves for three years until Captain Crusader came along.

‘I don’t like it, it’s racist’.

In Australian society I very much doubt Creole means anything to anyone. I’ve certainly never heard it used (I’d never heard it period until reading the article) in a derogatory context towards anyone.

Have you?

the issue of a badly named biscuit it the entire topic here

the name is ‘random’ and devise (poorly) by the maker and retailer

other product/styles that match the description of the article are more relevent to the name given and used
this one isnt

as someone is already offended it may grow to a larger issue in the future

perhaps better thought will be used in naming things from now on
why stay in the stoneage with un-PC names etc

coles has moved on, so should we

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It is really good tasting milk too, hopefully this guy doesn’t ever venture out of his academic bubble-world role in Queensland!

The oxygen thief even wants red skins lollies removed from sale – I guess he isn’t aware of the American football team named the Washington Redskins.

He reminds me of an American knob on youtube who has a video exposing racism in Australian supermarkets that sell Coon cheese, what the dead shit doesn’t seem to realise is that 1. The inventor who the cheese was named after is an American, and 2… suprise suprise, it’s his family name, but apparently this makes “Australia racist”

God forbid they ever find out about “NIPS” chocolate coated peanuts for sale in Asia, and presumably many other places.

What the fuck does “racism” actually mean now?

racism – noun

1. discrimination perpetrated only by white people towards
non whites?