More Aboriginal complaining: “Give us free houses!”
“We just want to be treated as equals”.
We hear this old chestnut trotted out time and time again when the issue of Aboriginal welfare is discussed. Despite educational subsidies, health care subsidies, virtually no criteria for welfare payments, free housing and a whole host of extra support from government services, it seems there’s always something else to whinge about.
Back in 2007, six hundred and forty two million dollars were put aside for the Strategic Indigenous Housing and Infrastructure Program. This program was created to build houses in unsustainable communities and then …something something… everyone would find jobs and live happily ever after.
To date not one house has been built under the program and Aboriginal groups have started to circle the government demanding to know why.
To be fair to the Aboriginal groups it does seem rather shameful on the government part that after promising such a large budget, nearly two years later they’ve done nothing about it.
Sure they’ve probably held committee after committee and meeting after meeting on it but the bit that people care about, getting a free house hasn’t really happened.
The government argue that the money is there and what’s holding progress back is the refusal for Aboriginals to sign the government on with long term leases on the land. We’re not talking small potatoes money here either, recently one hundred and twenty five million was knocked back by an Aboriginal community.
For land that has no agricultural value, is in the middle of nowheresville and has no infrastructure the money is ludicrous. When Aboriginal people complain about being stuck in places with no choice in the face of such offers clearly there’s huge questions of credibility in their claims.
Personally while I’d prefer the government avoided making such grand gestures and continuing to prop up failed communities with taxpayer money I can’t help but feel a little left out. Sure I might live longer, enjoy a better education and job availability but is that something I’ve achieved or more the product of choosing not to live in the middle of nowhere?
The advantages most Australians enjoy are available to Aboriginals, just not in the trashy environments they choose to live in. And it’s not just restricted to Aboriginals, I mean if I went out and lived there I imagine my health would eventually take a pounding too.
This I believe is probably why the government have been slow to act on building houses for these people. It’s true the economic crisis cannot be blamed for inaction dating back to 2007 but it’s not like the Rudd government aren’t known for stalling and holding committees for months before deciding on anything.
Take the National Broadband Network for example, last I heard we can expect to have a rollout sometime in 2090. Maybe.
What I think has most likely happened is that while their intentions were good back in 2007, after planning, discussing and yada yada whatever else governments do, when the time came around to coughing up the money they realised there were more pressing matters at hand.
Aboriginals on welfare don’t contribute to society or the economy, they don’t produce anything and any money you throw at them gets sucked into a black hole never to be seen again. In the face of a declining health care system, crippling public transport infrastructure, water shortage worries and housing crisis’ in our capital cities to name a few of the problems we’re facing, does it really surprise anyone building free houses for deadbeats has taken a back seat?
Especially when this is invariably how they wind up;
Up the road, a dozen people slump across the porch of a tiny, graffiti-stained house. Inside, a ceiling fan loses a battle with the rancid smell of the garbage and feces that litter the bathroom floor.
Palm-sized cockroaches skitter across the shower, and the two bedrooms are crammed with tattered mattresses where some of the home’s 18 residents sleep.
Scattered towns and communities exist all across Australia full of welfare supported deadbeats and layabouts. The featured video below showcases the best of one such community, Halls Creek.
So can someone tell me why the hell the government would even want to build houses for these people?
Even if we forget about the taxpayers return on investment for doing so, why is it that the massive inequality programs such as this create are never addressed?
Most Australian’s dream of owning their own home one day. For most of us that means working hard, taking out a mortgage and and maintaining the property.
Why is it then that just because I’m Aboriginal I can not only demand free housing but then have the balls to stand up and complain when the government doesn’t maintain the property free of charge?
Really, this is that what Aboriginals are complaining about these days?
An economic drain of a craptastic community in the middle of nowhere with no job prospects, little infrastructure, water problems, alcohol and drug abuse with shiny brand spanking new houses is still a craptastic community.
It’s high time the government stood up to Aboriginal groups and started to demand a return on investment to the millions we pump into these failed communities every year.
The jobs aren’t coming, the booze won’t stop and the kids are just going to continue to die younger until you start taking responsibility and constructive lifestyle choices of your own.
Stop deluding yourselves and wake up.
January 31st, 2010 at 6:43 pm Douglas(Quote)
what a sad race they are , some make it , but a lot don’t
May 19th, 2010 at 2:48 pm Jimmyholster(Quote)
My god I love you!…this stuff should be in the bloody bible!
May 29th, 2010 at 5:39 pm toscalloyd(Quote)
That video must have been taken on a good day in Halls creek. It is a lot worse than what is shown there.
June 19th, 2010 at 11:21 pm francie(Quote)
This is the sort of community we have over our border..they run riot during the night,,breaking into shops, houses, stealing cars and now we had a tragic death in buronga where an innocent man was killed !!!
They are nothing but a worry to society !! And why should we be responsible now with handouts for something that happened 100 yrs ago ?? why should we say sorry when we are continually paying for the damage they cause even murder !! its not fair mate its just not fair !!
August 12th, 2010 at 8:09 pm Wendy(Quote)
*shakes head* The more freebies they get, the more they want, the more we give them, the less they do for themselves..Enough is enough!
We are making them lazy, by not making them accountable for their own misery! How long can they wallow in self pity over things that happened hundreds of years ago? My Great, great, great Aunt was murdered by Turks in Broken Hill, so what do I do, demand the Turkish people of today pay me a ‘sorry fund’? Make the whole country of Turkey accountable? Even demand they look after me financially, for what those idiots did back in the early 20th Century, to a relative I do not know- as sad as it was,???- And, any wrong things I have done in my life, blame on that incident?…
Its no wonder white Australians (And others who have become Australians) are fed up, and repulsed by the Aboriginals attempt to blame ALL Australians for their lazy, non-caring attitudes. As much as it was a sad time, as it would have been for my family all those years ago also, you cannot dwell on issues in the past..you have to rise above it, and move on, blaming us today for those sad times many years ago, is nothing more than a crutch for their own bad behaviour…
Free housing..why? So it can be destroyed within days? They know this will happen, don’t they care about the financial loss involved? Whats the point of helping, when workmen have all their hard work ruined? And then at the same time, the aboriginals get away with it scott free??? If we damage property, we get charged, and have to pay back the organization that helped us in the first place…I am so sick of this-”you owe us” attitude!
Over the years, all this free help they have received should now mean they now OWE US! The tables have turned now! There have been enough ‘Sorries’, and free handouts, now they should hold up their side of the deal and get on with life, and develop into caring, hard working members of society!
I am damn sure I personally, did not put a bottle of booze into the hands of the locals down the road, that refuse to work, while being drunk on tax payers money day in day out…yet, every time I walk past one of them, I am called a white bastard. (AND WORSE!)..maybe we as Australians, should start making abig issue about their Racist attitudes, because THEY are the ones abusing us and the system, not the other way around!
No more free handouts, free housing, different court systems, free education, free health, FREE EVERYTHING..Make them put their kids in School, or take away their benefits, just like we have too, make them work- or cut their benefits like we would have happen to us, make them pay for housing- AND look after it, or suffer the consiquences, like we would have too, for gods sake, MAKE THEM ACT EQUAL!!!!
August 13th, 2010 at 4:06 am ozsoapbox(Quote)
Hear hear, it’s great to hear from someone as passionate as I am on the issue of Aboriginal equality.
The handouts went beyond ridiculous years ago.
September 12th, 2010 at 12:47 am meemee(Quote)
I don’t understand why, they don’t have to work or why their kids don’t haveto go to school..If they want equal treatment I say hey well thats great lets give them what they want,,equal treatment, make them look for work, have them puyt their kids in school, make them pay rent, and for education, and if they break the law, or they damamge their houses then they should fix it,,
I did not force alcohol on to them ,they buy it and drink it off their own backs, just the same as non indigenous people buy alcohol and waste themselves..only difference is ,is that non indigenous get punished if they break the law,with the indigenous the other cheek is turned….
I am all for scrapping the difference between them and us and all for getting EXACTLY THE SAME…
October 26th, 2010 at 11:21 pm David Leffler(Quote)
February 8th, 2011 at 1:23 pm Brigette(Quote)
Shame on you all. Perhaps you should educate yourselves on the turmoils the aboriginal people have been through thanks to the white man.
If you had a look at the history of this country and what the first settlers did to them i think you would hang your head in shame. Not only that, what they have been subjected to ever since.
When do aboriginal people really get a fair go, even today. Never. You are all an embarrassment to Australia. Racist and ignorant.
This land truly does belong to the aboriginals. We stole it from them and treat them worse than we do animals. I have no problem with them receiving benefits etc from the government. They deserve much more.
What we did to them can never be made up for. Incase you are wondering, i am not part aboriginal. I am white and what we cal ‘Australian’ and i am ashamed of what we have done.
February 8th, 2011 at 10:26 pm ausGeoff(Quote)
Sorry Brigette, but this time-worn old cliche just doesn’t stand up to scrutiny any longer. Like all the other Aboriginal apologists, you’re claiming that something that occurred 200 years go should cause us — in 2011 — personal shame.
I’m a fourth-generation Aussie, and I simply don’t accept that I or any of my immediate family or forebears were “responsible” in any way for what happened way back then.
And what exactly have they been “subjected” to since then? Free housing, education, medical benefits, education? You know, all those sorts of things that you and I have to pay for.
And once again Brigette, you’re the “embarrassment” in this dialogue. You’re obviously a classic bleeding-heart do-gooder who’d be as likely to take aborigines into their own home as fly to the Moon.
You sit comfortably behind the safety of your keyboard, smugly sniping away at anybody who dares vocalise what many, many others are thinking. You’re falsely claiming the high moral ground, but it’s a cheap trick that won’t work here. Sorry.
Says who exactly? The oracle known as “Brigette”? The land doesn’t belong to anybody in particular; not you, not me, not the Aboriginals. We’re effectively all squatters.
No we didn’t; you can’t “steal” something that nobody owns.
It may also interest you to know that Aboriginals actually own areas of freehold land vastly in excess of that owned by any white man. And that as a white person you need formal permission before entering those Aboriginal-owned lands.
And neither do I. providing it’s not pissed up against a wall the next day!
You’re more than welcome to feel “ashamed” for what you perceive as what you may have done, but please don’t include me in your self-serving conscience cleansing.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:51 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
@Brigette
Civilization arrives on large land mass. Civilization colonised land mass… yawn. It was happening everywhere around the world. Yet somehow only in Australia have we developed this narcisstic welfare driven guilt complex.
Why? I wasn’t there, I didn’t do it. I don’t hold German children accountable for the holocaust or Japanese children responsible for Japan’s war attrocities, so why should I have any sense of responsibility for what the British did when they landed here?
When does anybody get a fair go when they live out in the middle of nowhere and depend on government handouts?
Being disadvantaged loses sympathetic angle when you are the main instigatior of your own disadvantagement.
No it doesn’t. No more than it belongs to you and me.
No we didn’t. I didn’t steal anything from anyone.
And I only wish my cat was eleigible for the welfare payments and other social security Aboriginals are entitled to… Given the cost of raising a cat and what would be left over, hell I wouldn’t have to work a day in my life ever again.
Given I didn’t do anything, I’ve got nothing to be ashamed of. Aboriginals should be ashamed for the squandering of any and all opportunities extended to them.
Best of luck with your guilt complex.
February 10th, 2011 at 7:19 pm ausGeoff(Quote)
There’s no need at all to feel “ashamed” Brigette. Look at the irreparable ecological damage our Aboriginals have caused in the past, and how they ignorantly mismanaged “their” lands, and selfishly devastated the native fauna to the point of extinction — and beyond.
Below, I’ve paraphrased the content from a couple of relevant sites to clarify this issue.
40,000 years ago in Australia, large-scale burning of the land by Aboriginals turned rain-forest into savannah, and then into desert. After the foliage was razed to the ground, rain then soaked into the sand or quickly evaporated under our scorching sun. In turn, a reduction in humidity decreased the number of clouds forming.
In 2005, Dr John Magee and Dr Michael Gagana from the Australian National University showed that burning caused a decrease in the exchange of water vapour between the biosphere and atmosphere. [http://info.anu.edu.au/ovc/Media/Media_Releases/2005/July/080705magee]
Clouds stopped forming and the annual monsoon over central Australia failed. Whereas once the Nullarbor Plain was home to forests and tree-dwelling kangaroos, it’s now desert.
Likewise, Lake Eyre, formerly a deep-water lake, is now a huge salt flat only occasionally covered by ephemeral floods.
As human induced climate change caused the rains to fail, it was impossible for the Aboriginals to remain in balance with the ecosystem. When Australia had been fertile, their population densities had been high and may have been in balance with the megafauna (large native animals). When the ecosystem collapsed, the Aboriginals used their skills of adaptation to hunt megafauna to extinction.
Unfortunately, the Aboriginals’ use of fire further contributed to the drying of Australia and continued the expansion of the desert. Eventually, eucalyptus forests, which recover quickly from fire damage, were all that remained in Australia.
Koalas aside, eucalypts are not suitable for large browsing animals. A bountiful land of rain-forests and large animals had become a land of desert, eucalyptus and small, difficult to herd animals.
—You really need to do some research of your own Brigette before blindly parroting the ill-informed drivel spewing from the mouths of the current rash of politically-correct Aboriginal apologists.
I too hope you can suppress your guilt complex for long enough to get your facts straight. Guilt can only fuel irrational thinking.
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:56 pm beccy(Quote)
seriously, i don’t think its great to be GIVING stuff like the free housing among other things. but listen to what your saying, you treat the minority as the majority.
OK, so some drink and sometimes that leads to violence, but think about how that came about; you can’t get a job due to racism by your boss ->little money to support family -> resort to drinking to get away from family and because it makes it easy to forget stress -> children see and learn -> children begin to drink and have trouble getting job.
It all started with racism.
Part of my family are indigenous and i wouldn’t have it any other way and I’m proud of that, my heritage. so before you start bad mouthing issues as sensitive as one like this, think long and really hard before you open your mouth and say something that will offend someone reading it.
February 23rd, 2011 at 4:46 am ozsoapbox(Quote)
Wait hang on just a sec. Isn’t that scapegoating?
Most of these people live in places where there are no jobs, racist bosses or otherwise. And from the looks of it, I have a hard time imagining any of them have gone for a job interview recently.
I mean why would you when you can just hold out your hand and play the racist card like you’re attempting to here.
If everyone worried about offending other people nothing would ever get said.
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:42 am beccy(Quote)
@ ozsoapbox
Are you that narrow minded that you cant see the big picture here? this racist boss factor came in well before any sort of handouts were considered to soften the damage caused, im not tlking about the cycle starting when the handouts did, I’m talking before then.
And you don’t think you ‘white-men’ did anything wrong or it should now be forgive forget, well you place yourself in the shoes of
1. indigenous children being judge because of the actions of their forebeares (you find it easy to dish out but cant take the heat)
2. those once indigenous kids who could of had a culturely rich life but instead their mothers had to have kids with white men to breed out any indigenous blood in them and begin the half-caste issue.
3. the indigenous australians who want a fair go but you fit a bland, inaccurate and half baked stereotype on all of them. main stereotype is: strong, a bully, drinks heavily, will rape you or hurt you, will get bashed if you look at them wrong, mostly illiterate.
oh and one last thing, do you have any friends who are indigenous, if not studies show that those who are educated in such things are usually more tolerant, if so does your friend act like you’ve been ranting on about?
February 23rd, 2011 at 5:06 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
How can there be racist bosses if there’s no jobs?! Remote communities are employment blackholes, there’s no escaping that.
There’s a big difference between remembering something and the ‘you owe us’ attitude. Right now Aboriginals are stuck in the ‘you owe us’ attitude despite only a small minority of them being around when stuff happened.
As long as, generation after generation, they keep this mentality they aren’t going to progress as a people. The rest of the world managed and it’s time Aboriginals got on with life.
Who’s judging children? Rather it’s the Aboriginals sexually abusing them to all buggery in the remote camps. Yet the government continues to try and cover this up.
I don’t condone forcing people to breed with other people but if it was done with consent, why is there even a half caste issue in Aboriginal society? Aboriginals aren’t racist are they?
I thought Australia was supposed to be a great multicultural society, or doesn’t that apply to Aboriginals?
If they want a fair go all they have to do is move to where the jobs are and stop expecting the world to come to them. Me and other Australian’s are sick of paying for their unsustainable lifestyles.
Not personally no. When I was living in Australia I lived in an area where there was work… so you wouldn’t find too many Aboriginals there.
Meanwhile there’s quiute a few comments on the articles penned here from people who have to experience Aboriginals on a daily basis.
None of them are flattering.
February 23rd, 2011 at 6:48 pm beccy(Quote)
You just twist words to your own liking, i can’t force my opinion on to you, i can just give you food for thought. And i feel very strongly about this topic.
Watch the movie ‘Australia’ with Nicole Kidman in it and you’ll get a very minute idea of what it was to be a half-caste, neither one nor the other and expected to have children with white people to have less indigenous blood in your child.
Maybe it was done out of love for their children because they probably didn’t want such racism that was directed at them to be directed at their children.
And yes there are aborigines in places with work, the place i live has many of them living well in the society with no conflict with locals (there are more attacks from local teenagers of the european background in the media than indigenous), but when a narrow minded city person comes through it can cause conflicts.
February 26th, 2011 at 2:42 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
@beccy
Oh please, fictional Hollywood? Let’s keep our discussion based in reality shall we? We don’t need to introduce Baz Luhrmann’s interpretations into the equation.
Half caste is a racist concoction of the Aboriginal community failing to integrate and looking down upon anyone who isn’t ‘pure’. No different to what happened in World War 2.
These days lots of people in Australia are multi racial and if the Aboriginals have a problem accepting this it’s unacceptable and they need to work on it.
Regardless, it sounds like it was largely consentual. Therefore making it a non-issue.
Glad to hear it, however this doesn’t negate or change the fact that there are large populations (particuarly in the Northern Territory), where lawlessness rules. See my latest article: ‘What’s worse: Stolen Generation or the 21st century?‘
February 26th, 2011 at 9:02 pm ausGeoff(Quote)
I agree with Oz on this one.
If you start accepting the distorted, dollar-motivated Hollywood view of the Australia — and its aboriginals — then you’ve totally lost the plot! I can only presume that you’ve never actually viewed this trite, distorted view of Australian culture, complete with its over-the-top stereotypical “representations” of Aboriginals as possessing some sort of almost superhuman understanding of the entire world they inhabit.
Miscegenation (or as you term it “half caste”) has occurred spontaneously in every country across the world over thousands of years; since when were Aboriginal women “forced” to breed with white men? You claim that “…their [aboriginal children] mothers had to have kids with white men” without any evidence to support this, other than hearsay. How do you know that Aboriginal women weren’t falling over themselves in an effort to breed with the “superior” (in their eyes) white man?
Wouldn’t it seem totally illogical that the white men would voluntarily choose to mate with these filthy, primitive, ignorant natives, let alone force themselves upon them?
March 19th, 2011 at 10:49 am Wendy(Quote)
No matter what we say, in the eyes of an aboriginal, we Aussies are scum, racists pigs.
We all know that, and making them see reason is going to be as easy as getting them off the grog and out to work…
We all know the excuse, “I’m aboriginal, I’m black and no-one will hire me because of that….”
…Maybe its time THEY opened their eyes, and had a good look around at all the other races in the world, who work in our society?? I see VERY dark Africans working in Supermarkets, factories, driving buses, etc, Chinese working Take-Aways, in Stores, Chemists etc, Italians in coffee shops, Restaurants, running business etc…
Do we often see any Aboriginals, full aboriginals or half, working anywhere? NO. And this is NOT about colour or race- and it is an offense to accuse someone of being racist, when they are not.
I have a mate who owns a cardboard manufacturing business. He said he would hire anyone who wanted to work- ANYONE. He has trouble getting workers, and even put word out to the indigionous community near us, that he had work available. NOT ONE aboriginal applied, they all sit opposite the complex, yelling abuse out to him, while they sit there pissed from 9am onwards…
He has even approached them and tried to see if any wanted a job- yes! He actually did! And he was told quite frankly, to “F-Off, we dont wanna work with white c*nts..ya white prick..” and so on and so forth.
I also agree, that what happened to the aboriginals 200 yrs ago is something, that needs to be put aside now- is part of history. Every country has been invaded at some time, people died, were raped, children slaughtered, whole races of people were killed out.. horrific stuff….and you don’t hear as much crap about that- as you do in regards to Europeans coming to Australia.
It takes a very narrow minded person, to think, had the Europeans NOT came to Australia, that the Aboriginal people would still be walking around the bush, with spears, living like nomads still. LMAO. No way would they still be living like that! Realism needs to be faced!
I would also like to add..Why is it, that no-one recognizes, how aboriginal people were NOT the only ones, hard done by back in the early days of settlement??? What about the poor damn convicts? Alot of them were no more than children, taken from their families and sent to another country, for doing no more than stealing a loaf of bread?
Things police would turn a blind eye to today- Harsh don’t you think? See? But that was life back then! For everyone! and convicts were also being put to death! They had no choice in their fate, were taken from their mothers, sent away, never to be seen again!
And do we have memorials for all these souls who were taken? Are the families and many generations of future famlies, going to get a payment from the Government to make up for what had happened- 200 years ago? And, will all the families of those taken, be recognized with a ‘sorry ‘ day?
Well, I certainly don’t see their relatives refusing to work, or mix because of something that happened 2 centuries before.. THEY are the Forgotten people IMHO. We know how bad those ships were that bought the convicts over, there was unimaginable suffering.
I just think, aboriginal people should realise, they were not the only ones that suffered, and it has been proven, that you CAN move on in time- as the relatives of children and innocent ‘convicts have had to do.
But, typically, everything that is said, will be shot down in flames. People still think we owe them something…what that something is I do not know. They have free housing, Schooling, transport, their own rules, Government handouts, and in return refuse to be Australian, and do an honest days work, by putting their bit in to the community, like we all do…nope, they would rather sit around, drinking, and yelling out at passers-by, how hard up they are,and how bad we are for making them that way.
It really does make no sense, but they cannot see it….
When was the last time you heard a white Aussie, yell out a racial slur to a group of aboriginals?? We have learnt, that saying that would be certain death…so how are we all so racist? But they shout racially fuelled comments at us all the time?/ – Ah I still scratch my head over that one…
If they cannot move on after all this time, i cannot see much hope for them in the future…
March 19th, 2011 at 11:57 am ozsoapbox(Quote)
Some good points there Wendy re. the convicts.
Whislt I’m not about to suggest they were any worse done by or engage in a ‘woe is us’ competition with Aborigines over it, I think the convicts are definitely something that is glamourised in Australia’s history.
Actually I think if there was a particular story they could lock in on, and it was done with an American budget rather than an Australian one, a modern movie revolving around convict life in early Australia would actually make for a decent movie.
Probably what Luhrmann’s ‘Australia’ should have been about rather than a wanky romantic outback movie.
March 19th, 2011 at 1:43 pm Wendy(Quote)
Yes thats right. I just wanted to make a point that so many aboriginals are screaming about their unfair rights, and lost Generation this, Stolen children that, they have to realise it wasn’t all about them!
Surely they have noticed, that extended family members from the days of the convicts, are not out causing a major confrontations, demanding financial payouts, or making the lives of British or aboriginal people hell.
I think a movie based on early convict life in Australia would be a really good idea- but, how much tip-toeing over aboriginal issues would they encounter??
Its taboo to make them appear at fault for anything, and we know if the stolen generation are made to appear like ‘rescued children’, rather than stolen, there would be a huge out cry from Indiginous groups all over the world.
The suffering of convicts is well documented. Imagine a 14 year old boybeing ‘taken’ from his mother, sent over to another country on his own- in chains, then left in the middle of no-where to fend for himself? Many were attacked and killed by natives, they had no idea what was happening.
These people eventually rose above their fate, and poverty, they had no more than the clothes on their backs, but they overcame all this to become the society that Australia is today…now, someone tell me, why the aboriginals got left behind?
They had more provisions than some of the convicts, and yet, they never improved their ideas or way of life, when given the opportunity to do so, unlike the convicts and early settlers …many say its because the bush is their way of life,and they don’t want to lose that. Fair enough. So- why do they need to put their hand out for welfare money?- when they have roo’s, lizards, bush tucka, etc?
THATS how a TRUE aboriginal lives- he don’t need $$$, he lived the land for years without cash…
Like I said before tho…ranting isn’t going to change it…politicians haven’t got the balls to change things, and society is too scared to stand up and protest for fear of being labelled racist. It sux.
March 19th, 2011 at 3:57 pm ausGeoff(Quote)
Good point Wendy…
I’m guessing this is simply because, at the very core, your average Aboriginal person is a racist, whereas us whites have learned (admittedly over a period of time) that racism achieves absolutely zero for the betterment of society as a whole.
At least in Australia we’ve come to terms with racial “assimilation”— which is a concept that the aborigines have yet to comprehend and/or refuse to accept. For how many more generations do they seriously reckon they’re gonna be able to lie around in the sun all day drinking the white man’s piss and botting smokes off passers by?
Can’t they grasp the basic, uncomplicated, logical idea that they have to assimilate, or they’re just gonna die out?
March 20th, 2011 at 9:13 am Wendy(Quote)
Yeah so true ausGeoff. They are not progressing as a whole, and this is only their doing, no-one elses.I don’t think they will ever believe that colour or race is not the issue.
In the real world,if someone is nice to me, respects me, and is no trouble to me, it wouldn’t matter what colour they are, to me its about just being the same as everyone else.
Trying to tell the world that Aussies are racist does not win them any popularity points either! Whenever they are arrested for something, they say we are only arresting them based on their colour…I’m sorry- I don’t get that. You break the law- you get punished, no matter what…
I seriously think the aboriginals feel they don’t do any wrong, especially when arrested…they just can’t seem to get a grip of the fact, that breaking the law will have you arrested- no matter where you’re from or what colour you are! LOL…
And look at places like Redfern..certain streets there are ‘run’ by aboriginals…are they doing a good job? The terrace homes are destroyed, the place is a smashed up dump.
They call us racist, because no-one wants to go to those houses and carry out repairs…be a cold day in hell before I would want my hubby to head down there to repair their homes for them! Some streets down there are wildly out of control- this mess is what they have created, yet blame us all for it happening….go figure on that one…you fix their homes, and before you get to the front gate, they have destroyed it again…
nah..can’t see any changes in their civilization even within the next 100+ years..
September 24th, 2011 at 6:41 am Rooster(Quote)
Jimmyholster, this is in the Bible. “They that don’t work ought not to eat.”
This information should be in our national media newspapers and television, without the fear of reprisal due to vilification laws which serve to benefit minority groups and create a dumb down society.
September 24th, 2011 at 6:16 pm ausGeoff(Quote)
I can accept that our racial vilification laws are necessary to combat extreme cases of abuse, but unfortunately radical, ultra-left wing “splinter” groups of racial minorities take unfair advantage of the relatively loose ways these laws are written. They invariably seize on the “letter” of the laws, rather than the spirit in which they’re written; they’ll often take one single word totally out of context, and build a case based around that.
We desperately need magistrates to apply (or not) the vilification laws appropriately—as to their intent as they were written—and not as favourably interpreted by the complainants.
In Western Australia an aboriginal female was charged with racially abusing a Caucasian resident in Kalgoorlie. (She called her a “white slut”.) The charge was brought under WA’s racial vilification laws. However, Dennis Eggington from the Western Australian Aboriginal Legal Service complained loudly and bitterly to the media.
Eggington said: “I support the principle, but you’ve got to have a look at the dominant culture regime in that, in actual fact, you know, calling, say, a middle European person or a person who’s got ancestors from Britain a white so-and-so doesn’t have the same social effect that it does calling an aboriginal person a really derogatory name like “coon” or “boong” or something like that.”
So it seems that according to the Aboriginal Legal Service, it’s perfectly okay for an Aboriginal to call me—a fourth-generation white Aussie—a “white boy”, a “cracker”, “white trash” or in the case of a woman a “white slut”.
—Sure thing; that sounds eminently reasonable LOL.
September 25th, 2011 at 6:28 pm Worried Viewer(Quote)
Are you too naive in thinking that the problem can be solved by stopping, continuing or magnifying the financial help given to these people?
The problem at hand is a continuos cycle that had a beginning and now, needs and end. It started with colonialism which lead to the indigenous population forced to either: join the dominant group, or suffer with their land taken away and or death (this was done anyway).
Those that join at that time were striped of any rights they held in their own community and almost became pariahs just because of their skin colour, next came the massacres and the stolen generation. during this the lives of the indigenous people were not good, due to lack of rights and respect the got a low income from the jobs they could get, and that is the big contributor to keeping the cycle going. The low income results in a low quality of life that their children were brought up into and in turn they got low earning jobs, they turn to drinking as a form of coping and begin to resent the people who treated them like lepers.
This earned them the reputation and lifestyle they have now. they way his cycle can be broken is not by handouts from wrongdoings in the past (and there was wrongdoing by both sides, the british for the ignorance and prehaps the indigenous for not breaking the cycle earlier). By improving the standard of living in the places they live and their quality of health along with self respect by enabling them to keep hold of their culture, the cycle may be broken or the effects for everyone involved can be dramatically lessened.
No radical changes necessary, just tolerance, patience and funding put towards rural councils by the government, not for handouts but to fund infrastructure needed. Is that too much to ask from the government and too much too ask that people understand why funding is necessary for this, granted it probably has not being handled well in the past.
September 26th, 2011 at 9:03 am cat(Quote)
Im a singl mum of 7 and i struggle to keep food on the table and a roof over their heads. I work part time so they are not in daycare all the time because of how much it cost.
We lost a lot in the floods in qld and one of my kids r sick n gos to hospitsl alot (O) BY the way i am a aboriginal person what im saying is there is not as much. Help out there for the indigenous people as every one thinks there is.
September 26th, 2011 at 12:26 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
There’s nothing naive about realising they’re a lost cause in their current state.
As for the history lesson, don’t care. People’s the world over faced much dire situations and pulled through. Enough with how hard the Aboriginals had it, they need to accept what happened happened and get over it.
Aboriginals kids born today have the same opportunity as anyone else, providing their parents don’t keep them chained to shitholes of an area to live.
I’d have had one tenth of fuckall prospects if my parents moved to the whoop whoops too.
Sorry but it makes no sense to spend billions (even millions) on infrastructure out in the middle of nowhere. You can’t create jobs where there’s no demand for industry or business.
That and any infrastructure is just trashed by the locals anyway. Wanting to live in the bush with no job and all the perks of modern amenities is just not sustainable nor productive.
You can keep your culture intact, as countless other people have done around the world whilst integrating into society at large.
Step #1: Move out of the squalor you currently live in.
@Cat
So long as it’s not any less than what everyone else gets… I hope you’re not suggesting you’re somehow entitled to more assistance?
September 26th, 2011 at 6:13 pm Worried Viewer(Quote)
“Aboriginals kids born today have the same opportunity as anyone else, providing their parents don’t keep them chained to shitholes of an area to live.”
Those ‘Shitholes’ are there homes where generations of their family have lived and it is what they know, many have had their last names replaced with the station the worked on, with minimal pay may I add.
“Sorry but it makes no sense to spend billions (even millions) on infrastructure out in the middle of nowhere. You can’t create jobs where there’s no demand for industry or business.”
First point, you’d put millions before the billions to emphasise the point seeing as billions are larger, secondly, teaching the local males and females to have the necessary skills to build the infrastructure themselves not only gives them a trade, but also homes and other buildings that they can have pride in because *they* built it themselves.
This eliminates “any infrastructure is just trashed by the locals anyway.” would you trash something you had built, or something that someone else has built which could potentially give a sense of pity from the government. Prehaps you don’t realise, but not everyone just demands and demands, they want to earn it and be given the chance to earn it.
No jobs?! there are jobs, health jobs, jobs where people think they deserve compensation for working in those environments, they should want to do it to help, not to gain money or even see it as an inconvenience.
September 26th, 2011 at 6:33 pm Worried Viewer(Quote)
@ wendy
“Do we often see any Aboriginals, full aboriginals or half, working anywhere? NO. And this is NOT about colour or race- and it is an offense to accuse someone of being racist, when they are not.”
I can name one ‘half’ indigenous (by the way its rude to name people by the amount of indigenous blood because of the caste system etc) who not only worked hard to feed his family, he was a good man, he fished for food to put on the table and wasn’t a very rich man, in fact it is fair to say that he was probably lower middle class. He got food, had several different jobs in his life time, he died at 60, didn’t live a long life but was a full one.
I am willing to bet everything I own that he wasn’t the only one in the whole world (or just Australia), we would all (especially you) be deluding ourselves if we did. Not all indigenous children got stuck in ‘shitholes’ that they were brought up in, and it is a bout time to help all the others out, not to leave but to improve their way of life.
Your right Wendy, it is not about skin colour, so stop lumping them all into to one group of ‘problem makers’.
September 26th, 2011 at 9:02 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Don’t care. Millions of people around the world move to better their lives, Aboriginals aren’t any different.
And then what? There’s no industry or viable commercial strategy out there! They trash their stuff because there’s ten fifths of bugger all else to do out in the sticks!
And who’s going to pay them to build their own stuff?! Nobody comes to my house and fixes my plumbing or rewires my living room for free!
Again I say, ‘and then what?’
Let’s say we give the Aboriginals millions to build themselves shiny new houses and roads etc.. What then?
I suppose you’d suggest we then create completely artificial economic hubs that serve no real purpose as there’s no practicialty behind them due to their location.
You want people to move to the middle of nowhere and work on the princple of ‘wanting to help?’
The Aboriginals have no money, so if any actual busineses set up shop there or industry establishes itself, who the hell is going to pay them?!
Yeah… good luck with that.
There’s no incentive to establish industry where the locals are drug and alcohol fucked up layabouts. These people couldn’t compete for jobs in the rest of Australia and until they can (which would mean moving and actually competing for employment with the rest of the country), why on Earth (or more importantly WHO) is going to bring industry to them?
And don’t crap on about building infrastructure… after it’s built WHAT NEXT?
September 27th, 2011 at 8:46 am Worried Viewer(Quote)
They don’t get milllions to build ‘shiny new houses’, the council for a place called ( I will no name in the far north) has just received over a million or two at least for a housing project, more than any other rural council has ever received, rural councils tend to get only a couple of hundred thousand.
And of course you don’t care about their lifestyles and their attachment to the land where their forebears lived, because it doesn’t directly affect you.
There are so many programs out there to help train indigenous people in professional trades, health for instance, probably for two reasons, to ensure they have a chance to get a better education which can improve their way of life and because people like you don’t see why you should help fellow human beings, you think you deserve compensation for such inconveniences!
September 27th, 2011 at 10:37 am ozsoapbox(Quote)
And how many people will this housing project directly benefit? Bet it’s hugely disproportional to what’s spent on the rest of the non-aboriginal population per capita.
The only sense I give a shit is in that their current lifestyles aren’t working and their attachment is the main cause of this.
People’s all around the world (myself included) have had to move for work. Aboriginals are not special princesses in this regard.
The sooner they stop demanding the world come to them and come join the rest of us the better.
Do you know how much money and years it takes to enter the health industry?
Not to mention the little to no job prospects beyond being an abused social worker out in the sticks there are?
And how are you going to school people when they live hours away from anything (and don’t have a car!)?
I’d rather seethe money go elsewhere to be honest. Aboriginals in remote communities simply don’t deserve it.
September 27th, 2011 at 6:30 pm Worried Viewer(Quote)
This simply insults me.
You bet its hugely disproportionate, you think about how much is simply spent on maintaining the roads in big cities.
I have had enough, this conversation is completely pointless, your attitude is parallel to those of the early settlers and you can’t see past your obnoxious nose.
September 27th, 2011 at 6:34 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Get over it princess.
And how many millions of people use those roads?
How many people is the housing fund going to help… 5, 10… 20? Do you understand what ‘per capita’ means?
Aaaaaaaaaaand this is why Aboriginals will continue to live in squalor. Enter into a discussion about it and the bleeding hearts always plug their ears and run around screaming like spoilt children.
September 27th, 2011 at 6:38 pm Worried Viewer(Quote)
no one is running away ‘screaming’, it is just exhausting to express opinions of a topic one is passionate about on deaf ears, prehaps you are where you belong, behind a computer having no real input on this issue.
September 27th, 2011 at 6:43 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Just so long as I’m not holed up in some remote Aboriginal community hellhole I’m quite right thankyou.
At least I’m not living in some kumbaya hippe horshit denial fairlyand where educated and trained professionals are going to flock to the outback to work.
Then there was the ridiculous notion that Aboriginals who drink alcohol and sniff petrol all day actually want to build houses.
Please, they’re too busy feeling self pity to every make anything constructive out of their utterly wasted lives. Until someone comes along and forcfully kicks them up the bum (metaphorically) they’ll continue to be a national embarassment and financial drain on our great country.
September 27th, 2011 at 8:55 pm ausGeoff(Quote)
I can’t let this comment slip under the radar…
This alleged “attachment” to the land is simply a myth that’s been perpetuated (particularly) by Aboriginal activists for several generations now. This myth is intended to give Aboriginals some irrefutable and advantageous rights in the debate about their plight—in relation to the broader Australian society. This “attachment” is an intangible claim that can’t be quantified in any meaningful way: it’s just empty words meant to strike some sort of emotional chord.
And as far as modern-day Aboriginals are concerned, and their ancestral links, you need to bear in mind that the pre-white era Aboriginals were directly responsible for the extinction of more animal species than the white man ever has been.
If you consider the (literal) elimination of hundreds of animal species as some sort of perverse “attachment” with the land, and the desertification of massive tracts of a once temperate climatic environment by exploitation—well prior to the advent of the white man—then you know very little about Australia’s ancient environment, flora and fauna.
October 23rd, 2011 at 11:27 am Chris of Adelaide(Quote)
All Australians should be treated equally. No different ‘special’ treatment for aboriginals, no differebt departments handling their affairs. All under the same umbrella of Australian resident.
I would support action to end this expensive and unfair crap. Someone must speak up and the Australian people should vote on it. Thats the way democracy works.
Any political candidate to scrap these handouts and special treatment would get my vote any day!
October 23rd, 2011 at 7:42 pm ausGeoff(Quote)
I agree totally with this simple assertion…
The simple fact that each state has a “Department of Aboriginal Affairs” is more divisive than any other mechanism currently constraining the assimilation of the relatively few “full-blooded” (estimated at between 50,000 to 60,000) aborigines left in Australia.
Why do we pander to a mere 0.25 per cent of the Australian population to such an absurd degree? Half a grand final footy crowd at the MCG?
On a per capita basis, this select group receives many, many more taxpayer dollars than do (for example) our white aged pensioners who’ve worked and paid taxes for maybe 50 years of their lives. Not good enough.
October 28th, 2011 at 2:40 pm Sick of This(Quote)
Well I have to say I’m sick of this whole stolen generation crap, I’m from England and I had (nor my ancestors) nothing to do with that rubbish.
I’m so sick of the bleeding heart humanitarians who say things like we owe them. Tell you what I will agree to the welfare if Rome starts paying me for me Celtic heritage because they TOURTERED TO DEATH tons of my people, stolen generation had it easy to other races in comparison.
That aside, I’m currently staying with my family in regional Australia that is heavily reliant on the tourism industry. Thanks to aboriginal’s causing crap (like burning a tourists car which happened the other day) more and more people are avoiding this area so great job guys your killing any industry here.
Secondly why was my mother who almost died and in critical condition not airlifted to Perth straight away because some aboriginal twat broke his arm and had priority, IT IS RACISM, I’m white and discriminated against.
The best thing happened when an aboriginal actually completed year 12 here, they were sent on an all expenses paid round the world trip, I feel ripped off that all I got was a pretty piece of paper.
To all the sympathisers where are my rights, why am I discriminated against and called racist by people that call me White C”:T.
When I was not here but in the city guess what, I was mugged by aboriginals who basically got off with a slap on the wrist. Same has happened to all my friends, and now I have to pay money to the very race of people that cause countless damages.
So not only are they getting free money I now have to pay for the damages that they do to society as well great.
To the point of living with the land, well, there are “sacred sites” here which I cannot enter, due to the work we do we sometimes take the aboriginals there, I just love the shrines of used diapers, the holy beer cans on the ground and the all so wonderful and divine piles of broken glass and trash that littered this most sacred site.
Sacred site? give me a break it’s just a money handout scheme.
Now to the housing issue, If I had a nice bran spanking new house I would not treat it as a toilet, where’s my house?. My grandmother could not get a house for a while and had to rent because the government decided to house the poor aboriginals in her area, she’s since moved because everything fell apart.
Lastly when I was working here aboriginals would enter the premises and the place would smell to the point of gagging for ten minutes after they left (and tons of air freshener), If anyone Aboriginal or not walked in for a job and they smelled like that I would have them booted out of my companies building so fast they wouldn’t know what hit them.
Oh I almost forgot animal cruelty, Do you know aboriginals get extra welfare if they have animals, strangely my area has tons of stray poor starving dogs, for the cruelty they dish out on their pets I would throw them in prison.
To some up, spare me your crap, the only good thing I see in welfare payments is eventually you will all just die out (self inflicted genocide wow your doing well) and the country can get on without such crap as welfare.
If racist means disliking someone because they smell like a toilet and constantly break the law, then I am racist, if racist means not wanting constant unfair treatment because Im white then I’m racist and proud.
October 29th, 2011 at 6:37 pm Chris of Adelaide(Quote)
What can we do? It’s so frustrating! It should be as simple as taxpayers voting on a change to welfare handouts, but that would make sense and free up billions of dollars for hospitals, schools, roads etc. Important stuff that taxpayers need.
If you are a member of parliament and share these views then put your hand up and take a risk. The majority of the nation would be behind you!
December 2nd, 2011 at 12:40 am White Chick of Adelaide(Quote)
@ozsoapbox – Yes, subsidised housing getting trashed in the outback is a complete waste of government money, but there are only around 3,000 indigenous people living in the APY Lands so my care factor is pretty low.
Come check out the northern suburbs of Adelaide some time. My area is full of substance abusing, chain smoking, breeding, unemployed dropkicks who are fresh out of jail. Oh, they’re mostly white. And half the houses around here are public housing, so they only pay a quarter of their dole on housing.
The number of pregnant teenagers and toothless, swearing single mums around here is depressing. Hundreds of thousands of city ferals getting heavily subsidised housing, easy handouts and baby bonuses upsets me way more than 3,000 people on the Lands getting free/subsidised housing.
Having said that, I agree with you that people need to move where the work is.
December 2nd, 2011 at 4:43 am ausGeoff(Quote)
Whilst this is perfectly correct…
…it doesn’t really tell the whole story.
If you do the maths, that leaves only $197.50 per week for a single mother—with two kids—to live on.
And you’re (apparently) bemused that they can’t afford adequate dental care… they’re “toothless”. And you’re also obviously unaware that a single molar root canal treatment can cost around $750. And that the waiting time for public dental hospital treatments is now upwards of four years?
December 2nd, 2011 at 4:54 am ausGeoff(Quote)
I thank you for taking the time to compose this diatribe of half-truths, hearsay, fabrications, and cliché-ridden urban myths but this comment in particular nearly caused an implosion in my intestinal tract it’s so hysterically funny…
I can only guess that you neglected to take your medication before you wrote all this tripe. Or took too much?
December 2nd, 2011 at 11:01 am ozsoapbox(Quote)
@White Chick
It doesn’t get your back up that we disproportionately spend so much more money on these 3000 people propping up their failed lifestyles?
I can imagine, and although a different topic altogether – I have no sympathy for them either. White or black a lazy person is a lazy person. Boot them out and be done with them.
December 4th, 2011 at 3:45 pm White Chick(Quote)
@ozsoapbox
$642,000,000 is an obscene amount.
I agree the government shouldn’t be propping up failed communities with taxpayer’s money, but I hold that against the government, not the Aboriginals born into the communities.
Much as I like your idea of booting lazy people out, not sure where we could send them so Work for the Dole is probably the best option.
@ausGeoff
Get your facts straight.
The fortnightly Parenting Payment for a single parent with 2 young children is $641.50. Up to a quarter of that goes in rent for housing trust housing.
- $160 per fortnight.
+ $329.28 Family Tax Benefit part A.
+ $140 Family Tax Benefit Part B.
=$950.78 per fortnight or $475 per week after paying rent, NOT the $197 per week you claim. Not to mention the healthcare card, discount utilities and transport concessions. There is NOTHING to stop people who do not have a serious disability and live in cities from getting a job or upskilling themselves to make themselves employable.
December 4th, 2011 at 7:06 pm ausGeoff(Quote)
Oh dear, we have a statistical pedant in our midst…
Single adult Newstart allowance is $486.80 per fortnight.
25% = $121.70 for public rental.
Which is equal to $182.55 per week disposable income.
The HCC is worth nothing unless you have a chronic illness.
The transport “concessions” are a joke and again in reality only worth something if one has a job to attend.
The utilies’ discounts are also laughably little; sometimes a mere $20 or $30 off a quarterly bill.
—Are you still naive enough to believe that an adult living in public housing can survive on less than 200 bucks a week? How much discretionary income does that provide them? Absolutely none.
You’re obviously one of these people who’re living quite comfortably on your present income (whatever it is), and consider yourself an expert on matters fiscal by checking out Centrelink’s benefits figures, and quoting how wonderful these are. And that anybody who can’t make ends meet or survive adequately on the huge dollars thus received is a total slacker who deserves to be put down.
But….. you obviously have absolutely NO comprehension of the realities of living on $182.55 per week.
—And please refrain from patronising the socially disadvantaged with thoughtlessly condescending remarks such as this…
That you judge people—and their unknown-to-you personal situations—with such obvious, predetermined contempt tells me a lot about you.
Apparently—in your insular “white chick” world—anybody who swears (god forbid!) or has a kid in their teens (as did my partner) or may suffer unavoidable dentition issues is beneath your favourable consideration. And you’ve even manged to use the classic yuppie put-down of calling them “ferals”. How original!
What a sad, myopic little world you must inhabit.
My sympathies are with you.
December 22nd, 2011 at 11:44 pm White Chick(Quote)
AusGeoff
you are the first person I have encountered who champions the feral’s right to scream “Shut the f*** up, or I’ll f***ing belt you” at their grizzling 18 month old.
That either makes you a feral, or one of those very sheltered people with a romanticised notion that adults who abuse kids are merely ‘misunderstood’. You’re literate, so I’m going with the latter.
December 23rd, 2011 at 9:37 am ausGeoff(Quote)
I have absolutely no idea what this bizarre response is intended to mean…
The fact that most (other) people swear seems to have struck a chord with you; hence your quaint use of asterisks to “disguise” the naughty bits in your quote. (Although typical of the hypocrites who consider their social station above others simply because they make a big—but hollow— show of not swearing.)
And I note you’re still continuing to use the “feral” put-down; you truly are a bigoted individual aren’t you? You’ve obviously then missed the irony of accusing me of leading a “sheltered” life! Looked in a mirror lately?
And I defy you to show me where exactly I’ve “championed” the “feral’s right” to abuse their children.
Please don’t put words in my mouth; that approach posits a straw man argument, and holds no worth.
January 28th, 2012 at 1:46 am baileyindira(Quote)
Racism is the belief that inherent different traits in racial groups to justify discrimination. The term “racism” is used predominantly as a pejorative epithet (to inflict harm). It is applied especially to the practice of exclusivity of racial discrimination which harms particular groups of people.
If we were to generalize for a moment, each nation has its national flag which represents a collective group of people regardless of their background, religions and cultures. A flag which exclusively represent a race of people and exclude all others in itself is a racist symbol.
As flags are a modern day concept, our indigenous people have opted to isolate themselves under their own banner, to aggravate this particular issue they go about burning the Australian flag to create unnecessary division and contention, yet they claim equality and reconciliation.
They have the option to celebrate the good things a civilized nation offers them, for example everything their fore bearers did not have. Homes, health, clothes, power, jobs, incomes, opportunities, industries etc etc, yet it appears instinctive to bite the hand that feeds them (literally).
The odds were/are against the indigenous to create their own modern/civilized society after 40,000 years without intervention. The suggestion of sovereignty is a rather mute topic as they were incapable of achieving this on their own.
To refer to the 26th Jan as invasion day and insist the indigenous pick and name a day of their own choice again is divisive. To further fuel this animosity, staging a protest to create fear and possible harm to the leaders of our country given the opportunity and bring their cause into disrepute; a tent ‘embassy’ which again is designed for an exclusive race of people.
Racism is not only an indigenous issue, government policy recognizes 1/8 aboriginal heritage as being ‘an aboriginal’ and qualifies for handouts according to their race. Having one aboriginal grandparent does not qualify me as one also.
The facts are I have 75% European ancestry and 25% aboriginal, I cannot discount my dominant heritage for the other. It would disrespectful for me to consider myself an equal to any genuine indigenous Australian who lives their life according to their ancient rituals and cultures.
I have never lived off the land, never claimed sacred rights to land, do not speak their dialect nor do I intend doing so. I wonder how many ‘aboriginals’ from settled areas would be able to take me on a walkabout on their country, show me the ways of the land, teach me their language and traditions.
Being an academic does not qualify one as an aboriginal, being friends with an elder does not or being easily offended does not qualify you either. To selectively use courts to validate your identity even though you effectively dont follow white fellas laws is again an insult to the white fella’s.
We are all very mindful of the horrific conditions the indigenous suffered 200 years ago, but 200 years down the track we are still sucking the life out of the wrongs committed against all those who are no longer here.
Today our indigenous choose to continue being victims at their own hands and take zero responsibility for their own decisions. If being stereotyped is of concern to the do-gooders out there, when did you last go out to help your own people on remote communities with drinking, drugs, abusive living conditions. There are 2 motto’s I live by
1. I get out of life what I put into it
2. Racism is in the eye of the beholder
March 16th, 2012 at 8:12 am Melissa(Quote)
I was attacked by a (i wont say ‘gang’) group of Aboriginal women one night out having fun, i was doing nothing wron and didnt say a word, i kept my head down. Unfortnately i had a handbag and my friend didnt.
luckily for my friends quick thinking i only ended up with a broken nose in two places, a fractured jaw and a banged up knee. im only 45kg and 160cm tall, quite tiny. The one that broke my nose looked like she would give rugby boys a run for their money.
What upsets me is the fact police where across the road and no one wanted to step in and stop them. The police even crossed paths with the ten odd girls running down the street and did nothing. I gave my statement. Had witnesses. But nothing. to this day, three years later no charges have been laid.
They were even out the front of the police station after laughing in their faces, my friends pointed them out to the officers yet they couldnt arrest them because ‘the victim wasnt here’ well damn right i wasnt, i was in the bloody hospital!
Apparently these girls get about 5-6 girls every week, they target alone or small groups of girls that are easy pickings. I had a lot of fight in me so i managed to keep my bag and belongings! (TAKE THAT!) but am still seriously scarred from it, im not racist, but i truly belive 100% in this article and all comments, and i cant look at another aboriginal girl the same.
Mind you though, i do have friends that are aboriginal and are the greatest friends ever! although they laugh about the fact that ‘oh dont worry its on me’ ‘ill get you a cab, they have to stop for me, dont worry about the ranks!’ it grinds my gears!!!!!
I dont ever see aboriginals ever truly ‘evolving’ into participating, equal citizens. “im sorry” for the past but they need to build a bridge and get over it!
March 16th, 2012 at 5:06 pm ausGeoff(Quote)
Hi there Melissa…
Not a satisfactory outcome at all, and definitely remiss of the police not to have charged your assailants (regardless of their racial profile) after a major assault such as this.
The incident you recount is still well within the so-called “statute of limitations” and you can still—even after three years—lodge an official complaint with your state’s police ombudsman.
Without knowing where you live, I’ve listed the appropriate State Government links here:
http://www.ombo.nsw.gov.au/complaints/nswpolice.html
http://www.ombudsman.nt.gov.au/police/
http://www.police.wa.gov.au/Aboutus/Commendationsandcomplaintsagainstpolice/tabid/1692/Default.aspx
http://www.ombudsman.vic.gov.au/www/html/79-police-complaints.asp
http://www.pca.sa.gov.au/PCAmain.htm
It’s critical that crimes of violence against the person are investigated, resolved, and penalties imposed against the assailant(s). This also allows (hopefully) some sort of psychological closure for the victim—and which can’t be underestimated.
It’s been reported frequently that the victims of violent physical assaults can often suffer delayed symptoms of PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder) even several decades after the incident.
—Good luck.