Stephen Conroy admits internet filter is useless
Stephen Conroy will arguably go down as one of the most hated people put in charge of the internet in Australia ever. Apart from a National Broadband Network that we may or may not get by 2255 the other major saga he’ll be known for is the proposal for a nation wide internet filter.
To be honest I haven’t really been paying much attention to what’s gone ever since the trial finished late last year. Last I heard they weren’t going to release the trial reports or Conroy’s office were just sitting on them for some stupid reason.
I’m not exactly sure filter wise currently where we’re at. I think most of the Australia has long since accepted the futility of an internet filter and is just secretly hoping that nothing happens before the next federal election.
In the meantime it seems Conroy is determined to waltz about the country doing television and radio interviews assumedly because he believes people still think the filter is a good idea.
In his latest ABC radio interview Conroy pretty much directly summed up the major problem with an Australian internet filter and conceded that there is no solution in sight.
The two biggest problems facing internet censorship in Australia is firstly the issue of free speech and secondly trust in the Australian government. Politicians don’t exactly rank up there on most of our ‘people we can trust’ lists so charging them with filtering the internet seems naturally uncomfortable.
Yet that’s exactly what the Rudd Labor government want you to accept. Fortunately they’ve at least got enough foresight to realise that this is a problem. In Conroy’s latest ABC interview he acknowledged this problem;
Senator Conroy today conceded greater transparency was needed in terms of what was deemed RC material.
“We have a discussion paper that we’ve issued calling for increased transparency measures,” he said.
The measures were needed to make sure governments could not slip things onto the list, he said.
This at a very basic level at least assures Australians that the government is aware that nobody trusts them to run a closed internet filter.
Despite calling for more transparency however Conroy also ‘ruled out making the (banned website) list public’.
If we look at the possible solutions of increasing transparency from the government end in terms of monitoring what websites are added to an internet filter censorship list, then it’s hard to imagine a more effective solution then banned website list transparency.
When asked why he was categorically ruling out this option Conroy stated that ‘the problem when you produce a list of URLs is you are actually giving the address of where to go and look‘.
And herein lies the problem. If the proposed internet filter was working as intended then the public wouldn’t be able to access websites on the publicly available ban list.
Conroy reasoning that you don’t publish a list of banned URLs is an admission that the internet filter simply won’t work. I mean if people are easily accessing URLs which are on a government blacklist then clearly the filter isn’t doing its job.
Either the filter will block websites Australian’s aren’t meant to be accessing, in which case it really doesn’t matter if the banned URL list is made public or not, or the filter won’t work.
Which one is it Conroy?
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March 30th, 2010 at 4:29 pm Ralph(Quote)
Was wondering if you’d write about this, oz. The comments on the story on the theage.com.au & abc.net.au/rn websites have exploded!
It’s funny – when a hippy friend was planning to protest the sedition laws years ago I didn’t really care. This policy really has me agitated though!
When I first heard about this, I was worried about the speed impact and it being circumventable. Though they are still valid arguments (despite the phony test results), my concern now is primarily a matter of trust.
Do we trust this government and all future governments to not legislate changes to the system? Once the infrastructure is in place, it will be easily adjusted. Then again, a government with a senate majority could pass the whole system through anyway! (Unless we all give them the impression it’s political suicide!)
The argument about making the list public is counter-productive, though. What conroy really needs to understand is that even _collecting_ such a nasty list together is wholly dangerous. It _will_ be leaked, and each url can be viewed by anyone overseas or someone here through a VPN/proxy/…
Not to mention this will be interfering with business connections and that of kidless adults.
If he simply proposed a rebate for families that want to use a family-friendly ISP then he would get very little complaint. Or use the money to set up an australian branch of the OPENDNS service. If it’s really designed to protect children from accidental exposure, then make it opt-in, non-government and with wider scope (eg all types of porn). Plenty of options already exist!
The hardest thing about this is not preaching to the choir. The impressionable masses need to be convinced that this is not a good idea. I know the ACL held an ‘information session’ at my church some time ago. I wanted to go, if just to spot the see the brainwashing in action, but i’m trying to keep my blood pressure down. It’d be interesting to know if there was anyone brave enough to object, and if they were consequently called pedophiles. My parents are against it, which is a relief. But they don’t have young kids. Their cleaning lady does, however, and I know she is worried about their safety. I just hope she doesn’t think this policy’ll help at all!
March 30th, 2010 at 5:01 pm Harry(Quote)
4,980 ways to circumvent the filter.
http://proxy.org/
Nuff said
March 31st, 2010 at 1:17 am Smithee(Quote)
Australia will be joining that esteemed club of freedom-loving nations that already filter the web such as China, North Korea and Iran.
March 31st, 2010 at 3:53 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
@Ralph
And rightly so. On any other issue Labor would usually listen to the vocal minority. I’d take a punt here and say that it’s the majority being vocal and against the filter whilst supporters of a filter are both in the minority and quiet.
Yet here we are with all our protests falling on deaf ears. It seems no matter how rational, technologically feasible or just downright sensible the arguments put towards Conroy are, he just manages to deflect with some irrelevant nonsense.
His performance has been much more woeful in the public eye then Garret or Barnaby so it boggles the mind why he’s still there.
Right now we’re at a crossroads which is why it’s so important. Effectiveness wise it’s a no brainer that regulation doesn’t work. I mean sure ACMA or whoever can say this movie or book is banned but if I want it I’ll either just order from overseas or download.
What is important is the trust issue. Once it’s been setup it’s easily adaptable to suit the agenda of whatever government is in power at any given time. More worrying then the government adapting the censorship technology are minority groups.
Take for example the MA 15+ rating the movie Kick Arse just received in Australia. As usual family groups are baying for blood claiming that 16 year olds will be deflowered and have their virgin purity stolen if they watch the film. Because of course y’know it’s not like they have to purchase a ticket and actively seek out to watch the film.
Have you been to a shopping centre in Australia recently?! We already have a nation of teenagers running around trying to be terry tough cunts flouting language at any opportunity. Restricting a movie is going to to jack.
Then there’s clowns like Focus on the Family’s Deb Sorensen , who said
What the hell?! The movie got an MA15+ rating and you’re always told why! What moron parents are running around thinking taking their kid to see an MA15+ movie is the equivalent of watching the Disney Channel?! If parents have no idea what MA15+ is, confiscate their children please as they’ve clearly failed at life.
Now imagine if moron family groups like Focus on the Family had political influence over a governing political party with an internet filter in place. This is what deeply concerns me.
The pedophile argument sticks because in Australia we’ve never had to fight for our freedom, implied or otherwise. It’s only once it’s gone that mainstream society will care. Unfortunately I think that’s the only way getting rid of the filter is going to happen.
April 1st, 2010 at 6:15 pm rheinard(Quote)
I can feel another “Blackout” protest coming (like the NZ one a while ago).
February 6th, 2011 at 7:24 pm Paul Grant(Quote)
Stephen Conroy in my opinion lacks even the most basic knowledge of technology and that’s made pretty clear with his frequent mixing up of terms, confusing phrases, invention of words and absolute lack of confidence when public speaking with regard to anything technology related.
Not to mention his personal ideas and values with particular reference to his conservative religious beliefs are a conflict of interest with regard to internet censorship. Obviously Conroy believes that pornography should be censored, it’s part of his own personal values. But certainly not the opinion of Australian society as a whole.
October 20th, 2011 at 8:37 pm Anonymous(Quote)
I totally agree with paul on this – steve conroy is more fail with computers then the average bitch.
He has no idea of the real when ti coems to internet.