iSnack 2.0 – Kraft have lost the plot
I’m not going to pretend I understand Vegemite. I’d like to think I have stereotypical tastebuds and I was born here but for whatever reason the black salty fish tasting spread has never done anything for me.
I’ll wrinkle up my nose when I walk past someone eating a Vegemite sandwich, cringe when I’m at lunch with someone who starts eating it, gag at the thought of eating it myself and kissing someone who’s just finished a Vegemite meal rates near the top of my ‘I just can’t do it’ experiences.
Having said that I can’t deny it’s popularity here in Australia. I know it’s marketed overseas but let’s face it, the only people buying it are expat aussies… kind of like the only people who buy spray cheese in a can here are Americans.
Following in Cadbury’s steps after their gargantuan stuffup in changing their well loved chocolate recipe, Kraft appear set to follow in their footsteps having learnt absolutely nothing.
Worse still somebody there seems to have graduated from the same marketing school as the Cadbury moron who gave us ‘the shape of the chocolate changes the taste’.
Meet the new Vegemite, ‘iSnack 2.0′
No seriously, after running a naming competition and accepting 40,000 entries – iSnack 2.0 is the name Kraft have chosen.
Ladies and gentlemen the only thing this exercise has taught us is that you don’t let the general public name variations of your iconic flagship product. The general public are idiots.
The gentleman responsible for the new name is 27 year old Dean Robbins, of Western Australia. Clearly an example of why IT nerds shouldn’t be allowed to name anything ever again, Robbins reasoning for the embarrassment of a name?
The ‘i’ phenomenon and Web 2.0 have been recent revolutions – I thought the new Vegemite name could do the same.
To give you an idea of just how much of a technological backwater Western Australia is, Web 2.0 first debuted back in 2004. Anyone will tell you 5 years in terms of internet time might as well be a lifetime.
These days web 2.0 is nothing more then a buzz word used by has been marketers to dazzle the technologically clueless into purchasing online products that were obsolete before they woke up that morning.
Seriously iSnack 2.0?
‘Hi there, what would you like on your sandwich today?’
‘Have you got any iSnack 2.0?’
‘…get out of my store.’
Say it with me, eye sna-ck two point oh. WHO THE HELL IS GOING TO CALL A SANDWICH SPREAD ISNACK 2.0!??
Kraft claim the name iSnack 2.0 was chosen to “to align the new product with a younger market — and the “cool” credentials of Apple’s iPod and iPhone.”
Really guys? That’s how superficial we have become as a society?
Sorry but sandwich spread is never going to be ‘cool’. Kids aren’t going to gather around the playground to checkout some kids new sandwich, wake up early to watch the new show on sandwich spread tv or begin to start trading Vegemite trading cards anytime soon.
I predict nobody is going to buy this product. I mean if Vegemite tastes awful I can’t imagine how adding Kraft plastic cheese to the spread is going to make it any better. Imagine a mouthful of salty ocean water, one of those plastic slices of cheese and a tub of salty sardines.
Ew!
What I do look forward to is the costly mistake this will be for Kraft and the apology issued in 12 months time when they realise they’ve just made the biggest marketing mistake in the company’s history.
The product’s tag line reads: “iSnack 2.0, because it’s the next generation Vegemite.”
Whilst I admit Apple don’t own a trademark on the letter i prefixing a product name, I do hope their lawyers are chomping at the bit to give Kraft a run for their money. If not for anything then to teach companies to stop reinventing the wheel and pandering to generation: moron in the process.
I for one don’t want to have iMilk with iMilo for breakfast, go off to my iJob where I do my iWork and then pickup some iCondoms on the way home so I can bang my iGirlfriend after we both share some iDinner.
iSnack 2.0 – the worst product name in the entire history of the universe? Pretty much.
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September 27th, 2009 at 10:35 am Paulie Jay(Quote)
They had to hold a competition to come up with a name as unoriginal as this? The fashion for putting a lower case “i” before a word and turning it into a product name was already annoyingly old five years ago. It is such an obvious attempt to be down with the kids that they could have called it MySpace-Mite. They have condemned their product to failure with a name that was out of fashion before it was even chosen. And besides, my suggestion – Kreemi-Mite – is a billion times better.
September 27th, 2009 at 11:21 am another douglas(Quote)
Yes – Kreemi Mite sounds like the best name I have heard for it. The product itself is not too bad (IMO -I love Vegemite, and also like the Kraft Cream Cheese – so blended together its not bad ). The ” no name ” product has been selling OK, but with this new name, I think Kraft have damaged its reputation. Haveing the ” i ” on a non electrical product is lame.
Think I will boycott it on its name alone.
And shame on Oz for not liking Vegemite
September 27th, 2009 at 1:37 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
That’s not the faintest whiff of sour grapes I’m detecting is it
?
I don’t know about you vegemite fans but I’d be up in arms if someone tried to pull this crap with something I loved (hey Nestle I’m looking at you and Milo!).
I hope others do as well. Seriously I have no idea how Kraft think people are going to talk about this product.
‘hey did you try out the new isnack 2.0?’
*facepalm*
‘what’s in your sandwiches?’
‘oh it’s that new spread, isnack 2.0′
*face palm*
‘Can I get a price check on…uh… eye snack 2.0 (omg that was worse then asking for condoms)?’
*facepalm*
There’s simply no non-dorky way to mention it in conversation.
Hey it’s not my fault it tastes horrible!
September 27th, 2009 at 5:15 pm AL(Quote)
Since when did Vegemite become a “salty fish tasting spread”?
I hate all seafood, but love Vegemite! – Go Figure.
Anyway….the name of this new stuff sucks.
Whatever.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:48 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
I don’t know, I guess I just associate the saltiness of Vegemite with tinned fish (hello anchovies!).
Either way not a fan.
September 27th, 2009 at 9:04 pm D Gordon(Quote)
Join the Facebook cause to change this ridiculous name http://apps.facebook.com/causes/361402/45722039?m=7f359208 – Change the name of iSnack2.0. Fancy naming OUR Vegemites cousin after an American product. Bloody unAustralian that is!!
September 27th, 2009 at 9:38 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Somehow I don’t think an American company particularly care how unAustralian they are being
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September 27th, 2009 at 10:39 pm Dorothea(Quote)
Stunned that you called the general public idiots! I am sure that of the 40,000 entries received that many would have been suitable. The only idiots are the marketing team who choose the winning entry.
September 27th, 2009 at 10:46 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Somebody had to say it.
As stupid as Kraft’s marketing team are for picking the name they wouldn’t have been able to had one of us not entered it in.
Jesus christ people can’t even name their kids properly these days let alone be charged with naming our national icons.
September 27th, 2009 at 11:32 pm murrayNE(Quote)
I look at things very differently to ozsoapbox’s last comment, on the contrary, even before coming to this site I had expressed the view that someone was bound to come up with a name like “iSnack” and (at least) “Vegemite 2.0″, and the combination is just incredibly incredibly unfortunate (as lame as iSnack is, the “two point oh” is the real kick in the privates of the name, IMHO).
Not everyone is a marketer. They’ve been selling “Name It” for what, six months? They cast their net wide, and they were going to dredge up some crap along with their shinola. The job of the marketers was to sort one from the other. Sorry, but this is on you, Kraft.
September 28th, 2009 at 12:03 am ivan_z(Quote)
My name is Ivan… And surname starts with Z…. Why is this important? I am graphic designer and as such fond of Macs… When I started my own design studio (iMacs just started selling) i thought of calling it iDESIGNz…. But Apple already had i in lots of their products and I could see as everyone else “i” will be the next black… For Apple… But Vegemite????? C’mon Kraft – your marketing “genuises” should use crowdsourcing but someone should explain them what crowdsourcing is and is not…. Name is B A D…. And Kraft have just doomed product.
September 28th, 2009 at 12:54 am Chris(Quote)
While I’m not Australia’s biggest fan of Vegemite, I really enjoy it every now and then for breakfast, spread very thinly on my toast, as the taste can be overpowering.
My girlfriend bought the new Vegemite iSnack 2.0 and so I gave it a try the other morning for breakfast. You find yourself having to spread it on much thicker as it doesn’t have the bite that normal Vegemite does.
This results in the jar being used far more quickly then the original Vegemite. Sorry, but to me this is just a ploy by Kraft to get people to eat their Vegemite quicker and hence buy it more often.
September 28th, 2009 at 12:52 pm Rob(Quote)
I also have never liked the taste of vegemite. I gagged the first time I tasted it around 18 years ago, and never touched it again.
then one day at the train station they were handling out sample of the new vegemite with a couple of crackers in the pack. i had a taste and i was very surprised – i didn’t gag, and it actually tasted good! i still wouldn’t each the original though.
once i finish the contents i will be keeping my jar of vegemite that still has “name me” on the label, its now a part of history.
September 28th, 2009 at 12:53 pm C(Quote)
^ Chris, not to mention that it expires within 4 weeks, so again it has to be bought much more often.
I think the name is ridiculous too, but for me the stupidest part is that I really don’t think I should be eating anything with a decimal point in its name.
September 28th, 2009 at 1:05 pm Vince(Quote)
They were definitely on some good iDrugs when they picked this winner
September 28th, 2009 at 1:11 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Hmm Kraft tried to buy Cadbury recently.
Can anyone fathom the level of stupid that would be created if Kraft and Cadbury were to merge?
iSnack 3.0 XP – it tastes different because it comes in a smaller jar and costs twice the price. But it’s what Australian families want.
Hmm really? I might give it a try later on in the week. I ran out of Nutella last weekend (yes I went through two large jars in two weeks – damn you Costco) and need more spread.
September 28th, 2009 at 1:13 pm Vince(Quote)
Looks like it might be Breville who are after them, who came up with the name 8 years ago: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/is-vegemites-isnack-toast-20090928-g8gk.html
September 28th, 2009 at 3:34 pm Nick(Quote)
Just wait Oz, the news today is that Kraft is considering a hostile bid on Cadbury after being rejected initially. Or even better with the total balls up of the less cocoa solids and replace it with vegetable fat that you blogged about recently concerning Cadbury’s chocolate, we can look probably look forward to a block of Vegemite flavoured chocolate if the same marketing gurus have their way.
September 28th, 2009 at 7:10 pm Ralph(Quote)
I said “Do you speak-a my language?”
He just smiled and gave me an iSnack 2.0 sandwich..
September 28th, 2009 at 7:39 pm Jay(Quote)
This is obviously just a big PR stunt
September 28th, 2009 at 9:55 pm Paulie Jay(Quote)
Hah – yes it is. iSourgrapes 2.0 to be precise!
Can you imagine if the Kraft / Cadbury takeover goes ahead? Next thing we will be seeing Vegemite in a square jar because as we all know, shape changes the flavour of food…
September 28th, 2009 at 10:03 pm warlock(Quote)
isnack .0 sucks
should of been cheesiemite
September 29th, 2009 at 12:11 am skotup(Quote)
i love the product but i cant encourage the mentality of the marketing team by purchasing this product any more. Im gonna buy regular vegemite and creme cheese then mix them.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:32 am Ads(Quote)
This has to be a pisstake. (and if it wasn’t, see how fast it becomes one… “haha guys… as if we’d call it that… hello cheesymite.)It’s hard to comprehend how lame this is otherwise… it’s more cringeworthy than when my dad used to say “ghettoblaster” loud in public.
September 29th, 2009 at 6:23 am Kim(Quote)
Does anyone else smell a rat?
Kraft has 29 trademarks containing “Vegemite” but none for “iSnack”. There would be a team of corporate lawyers employed by them just to do this if it was really their choice for a new name.
If you search the White Pages online there is no listing for a D Robbins (or any Robbins) at Ellenbrook WA.
Even a Google search has nothing. This from an IT expert!
Just saying!
September 29th, 2009 at 7:04 am Craig(Quote)
I’m glad the joke is on Kraft’s lame marketers and management and not on iAustralians.
Kraft should have let the public vote on the names and come up with a shortlist of 10. Then picked from the list.
That would have screened out most of the obvious dumb ones and still given them the final say to prevent a lobby group pushing a name like ‘iluvMarijuana’ or ‘Jedivite’.
Actually I prefer the name Jedivite – it sucks much less than iSnack 2.0.
In fact they probably just should have left it called ‘Name me’.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:00 am Citizen-D(Quote)
How do you people who don’t like Vegemite survive hangovers without it on toast? The taste cuts through the horrible mix of flavours in your mouth from the night before and it’s a good vitamin B shot.
I also think the name of the new cheese spread is a marketing ploy. It’s certainly got everyone talking.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:12 am ozsoapbox(Quote)
I have three letters for you, KFC.
KFC leaves you with less of a hangover then if you hadn’t even been drinking the night before.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:34 am Methuselah(Quote)
This must be a joke name. Otherwise it’s Krafts’ version of Poochie.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Itchy_&_Scratchy_&_Poochie_Show
September 29th, 2009 at 9:49 am iSnackBites(Quote)
Heck, calling it “Naomi” (ala Name Me) would have been better than the chosen name iSuck 2.0
September 29th, 2009 at 12:15 pm Dan(Quote)
iSnack 2.0 = fail
How about just IT’S PREMIXED VEGEMITE AND CREAM CHEESE
September 29th, 2009 at 8:00 pm Zygo Mycota(Quote)
Should be called mouldy-mite! Unlike Vegemite – Name me iSnack 2.0 went off. It’s yeast after all but makes you wonder why vegemite lasts so long? A conspiracy to rid the world of Vegemite? Perhaps.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:59 pm Paulie Jay(Quote)
Well, my jar says “best before Jan 2010″ which is considerably more than four weeks. You guys are putting it in the fridge as instructed on the jar, aren’t you…?
September 29th, 2009 at 10:12 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Wait wouldn’t putting it in the fridge make it hard to spread?
September 29th, 2009 at 10:23 pm Samantha(Quote)
I can’t believe someone got paid to make the naming decision.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:32 pm Carol(Quote)
I too hope Apple take Kraft for a ride re the usage of i prefix. Plus I won’t buy the stuff. Tampering with the original recipe by reducing the salt is bad enough, to add cream cheese smells. Prefer another brand that is wholly Australian made and owned and tastes much better than the less lesser salt Kraft Vegemite.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:40 pm Vincent(Quote)
agree with the whole article except.. the stab at WA being a technological backwater… this seems a little unrequired.. but more importantly (read up on Naked Conversations for the relevance of this)… unsubstantiated
I can think of some areas where, in Australia at least, WA has done pretty well as an innovative city. Feel free to get in touch if you’d like me to detail further!
so, good article, crap poke.
Yes, I’m originally from WA, yes I’m in technology
September 30th, 2009 at 1:24 am Jeff(Quote)
Is it strange that Dean Robbins only outing as the originator of the isnack name is a photo holding a jar of the stuff in Federation Square. NO interviews and the only quotes provided by a PR blurb. Apparently he’s not available today because he’s gone to Bali.
Well why wouldn’t you?
September 30th, 2009 at 9:34 am ozsoapbox(Quote)
If half the country was baying for your blood wouldn’t you flee the country too?
September 30th, 2009 at 12:16 pm Mike(Quote)
Vegemite tastes nothing like fish to me – I hate all seafood but I love vegemite
Will agree with the idiocy of the name though – looks like Kraft received the food spread equiv of being Rickrolled.
September 30th, 2009 at 1:15 pm Methuselah(Quote)
How exciting: someone has turned the Poochie reference into a “principle”.
I love marketing.
http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/he-just-smiled-and-gave-me-a-isnack2.0-sandwich/
September 30th, 2009 at 3:01 pm Ben(Quote)
What were they thinking? By now we’ve all heard Hitler’s opinions on iSnack – now Southpark has joined in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlyX3PL82xM
Lol
September 30th, 2009 at 4:12 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Seems all you people that called it as a giant publicity stunt were right.
Suuuure it wasn’t mate.
September 30th, 2009 at 4:29 pm Vince(Quote)
In other words, it was a publicity stunt. But was it really necessary?
It’d be like McDonald’s changing their name to iBurger 2.0 to grab attention…what’s the point? It’s ok Kraft, we all know Vegemite exists; you don’t to pull any stunts.
October 1st, 2009 at
[...] The public aren’t professionals or experts in branding/advertising/marketing, and while thinking outside the box can result in some innovative ideas, how can you ensure that they will choose a good one? OzSoapBox explains the danger of “allowing another IT nerd to name anything ever again”. [...]
October 1st, 2009 at 9:04 pm gary(Quote)
how about vegemite vista?
maybe iSnack premium gold pro 3.0
all the nerds will go for that!
October 2nd, 2009 at 6:27 pm David(Quote)
A couple of interesting things:
- iSnack IS a registered trademark – of Breville’s. They’ve never made a product under the name, and it’s in a different trademark class…but.
- Kraft lodged a trademark application under the relevant class, but not until Sept 30 (picking up on a Hong Kong trademark application made in July). Supposedly to “stay under the radar”. No…you stay under the radar with this by using an obscure firm of solicitors and not disclosing the client.
I love that it’s so clueless. Anyone who knows the source of the “2.0″ tag knows there has to be a “1.0″ etc. Starting with a 2.0 just makes them look like a dad trying to talk like a teenager. Tragic.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:11 am Cass(Quote)
You know, it’s kind of getting to that point where I couldn’t care less what they call it. This whole iSnack 2.0 disaster is seriously starting to get old and I just want to taste the damn Vegemite!
You’re right though. If they went ahead with iSnack 2.0, I would be too embarressed to ask for it on my sandwich. How much of a tool would you sound like asking for a slice of bread with some iSnack 2.0 on it? Sounds like you’re asking for video-game on toast.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:14 am richard(Quote)
you know that they are just calling it isnack 2.0 to get publicity so it will be on the news (7 pm project) i think it should be called chessy salty black crap,volde-might,
kanya-might,ya mum might or tom cruse the crapest actor of all time like isnack 2.0 the crapest spreed of all time (vegemight 2nd crapest spread of all time)
or you could allways call it cheesy might
October 7th, 2009 at 1:05 am Saltastic makes more sense(Quote)
Well I think everyone who likes Vegemite agrees is has a very… very… VERY salty taste.
To me, they don’t make the vegemite sizes small enough. Most people who buy it only try it once anyways.
October 12th, 2009 at 12:10 am Brad(Quote)
lol I found a website that’s actually SELLING iSnack 2.0, can’t believe it. I guess they are starting to become rare?
URL: http://isnack2.com.au
November 26th, 2009 at 9:30 pm Jay(Quote)
I had a slightly different interpretation of iSnack 2.0…. My twisted brain ignored the spelling and went for the sound. isnack equated with eyecandy… eyecandy being something that looked pleasing to the eye….. therefore became a snack that looked like….. well when I was a kid, no.1 was kid code for pee, and no.2 was the other….
November 26th, 2009 at 11:14 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
…so what you’re saying is you find no. 2 pleasing to the eye?
wait what?
November 27th, 2009 at 9:17 pm josh(Quote)
i liked the name I snack 2.0 & I always like another option. I like vegemite & I like this new version too
what i didn’t like was how kraft gave into this pressure. If they had done a vote with isnack 2.0 being an option, that would have been cool. but it wasn’t included in the choice. all these nationalistic options emerged… boring. isnack 2.0 was modern & international. conservatives won one more time
November 27th, 2009 at 9:42 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Apart from Dean Robbins, I think perhaps you might be the only other person in the country to have liked the name
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Seriously though the reason it wasn’t included in the vote has got nothing to do with nationalism. Kraft just played the Australian public with a somewhat clever viral marketing campaign.
1. pick stupid name.
2. sit back and watch outcry.
3. Apologise and come up with pre-deterimined list of alternatives.
4. Let public vote so they feel it’s “their” brand.
5. $$$
Admittedly I was one of the ones that initially fell for it too, so kudos to Kraft.
July 26th, 2010 at 2:38 pm Atreides(Quote)
I just wonder why Kraft felt the need to make a new product. They product is a permanent part of a large proportion of Australian households. They barely need to advertise Vegemite any more*. And most Australians who have grown up with it have warm nostalgic feelings of childhood associated with it, so why destroy that with iCrapName 2.0?
Perhaps you’re right about the marketing campaign.
* Arnotts are onto something similar with Ginger Nuts.
July 27th, 2010 at 1:48 am ozsoapbox(Quote)
Welcome to Generation Y marketing. Stuff everything that was ever done before I got here, I need to prove myself with some radical new ideas… I know, let’s reinvent ourselves.
On a completely unrelated note, how awesome would Ginger Nuts be as a nickname for Julia Gillard. Honestly, if she wins the election I’m going to start calling her that.
Ginger nuts. Has a nice ring to it.
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