One would attain optimum health and bodily function if they simply followed the laws of natural health – then you would rarely, if ever, have to see a Doctor,a hospital, a chiropractor, a clinical whatever etc etc. Just ask all those people who have lived long disease free and disability free lives.

If you don’t believe me, do your ‘own homework’ without any outside influences or conventional brainwashed indidious habits.

If a parent is mentally ill, and kills the kids then it is the system that is guilty because the children were left with that parent. If the parents claim mental illness falsely, and kill the kids, it is murder.

One point about mental illness is this, some mentally ill people should be institutionalised but are not because of lack of instituions. Here the guilty parties are our governments.

a) write negative posts about things you don’t really care about, but feel better about them after writing (even though you didn’t really care in the first place)

There’s a difference between caring and getting worked up. You seem to have trouble differentiating between disagreeing calmy and rationally and jumping off the deep end.

Not everyone who cares about something has to do so by becoming a emotionally involved raving lunatic.

b) see no point in contributing in a positive way to anything you perceive in a negative way (is this apathy, cynicism or laziness?)

Awareness is my tool and this is far more positive than killing children and crying mental illness.

c) have no desire to improve your understanding of a situation in order to reach a solution

Parents kill children, parents get caught, parents go to court, parents blame mental illness, parents get off scott free.

That’s all I need to know to form a negative opinion and claim our courts are giving way to much lenience to these murderers.

e) have no sense of compassion for anybody who does anything you cannot imagine yourself doing (and probably find it convenient to ignore that fact that once upon a time, the people you are judging no doubt couldn’t imagine themselves doing it either)

…you want me to have compassion for people who murder their children. Sorry but not going to happen.

Regardless of the reason there is simply no justification for killing your children. Crying mental illness in court and getting off scott free is just a kick in the nuts to society. And it’s certainly not justification for what these parents have done.

Try showing some compassion for the children who died.

f) consider a series of personal attacks on people you don’t know, based on scant information, to be “constructive” criticism of a legal system

Oh no, somebody has an opinion, GET EM!

I highly value my right to an opinion and it’s based on the information I know at the time. If I feel there’s sufficient information available for me to form an opinion and write about then I’ll do so.

I refuse to believe there’s any additional information missing in any of the stories featured in the article that will absolve the parents of killing their children.

There is a (quite funny) website called “toothpastefordinner.com” and on it is a little comic of a guy in a protest march, holding up a placard that says “complaining is easier than doing anything”. Funny cos it’s true.

The tagline for OzSoapbox is ‘because criticism isn’t an armchair sport’. What did you expect this site to be about?

I hope you take the time to think about some of the things above.

Done and done. See you the next time somebody murders their child.

a) write negative posts about things you don’t really care about, but feel better about them after writing (even though you didn’t really care in the first place)

b) see no point in contributing in a positive way to anything you perceive in a negative way (is this apathy, cynicism or laziness?)

c) have no desire to improve your understanding of a situation in order to reach a solution

d) feel no sense of responsibility as a citizen but are happy to complain about other people’s perceived (by you) lack of responsibility as citizens

e) have no sense of compassion for anybody who does anything you cannot imagine yourself doing (and probably find it convenient to ignore that fact that once upon a time, the people you are judging no doubt couldn’t imagine themselves doing it either)

f) consider a series of personal attacks on people you don’t know, based on scant information, to be “constructive” criticism of a legal system

g) aren’t concerned about the mental health system that should be negating the neccesity of the legal system; in at least some of, if not all of, these cases

h) prefer emotional rhetoric to research

There is a (quite funny) website called “toothpastefordinner.com” and on it is a little comic of a guy in a protest march, holding up a placard that says “complaining is easier than doing anything”. Funny cos it’s true.

I don’t think there’s much point in continuing this discussion any further, but thanks for the time you took to respond, and for being relatively polite in your responses. I hope you take the time to think about some of the things above.

If writing a blog post about “baby killers” is all it takes to make you feel better, I don’t really get why you were worked up enough to write in the first place.

Who said anything about getting worked up? You don’t need to get worked up to have an opinion.

Some people get worked up and murder their children. Meanwhile some people are able to construct and present their thoughts without elevating their anger levels.

I just get annoyed by people who contribute to a painful situation in a negative way, and act as though they are superior. It’s total hypocrisy.

How is it hypocrisy, are you insinuating I’ve murdered children of my own? We can all contribute positively but that’s kind of pointless if we’ve got a negative view of the situation isn’t it? Supressing our opinons on matters is hardly healthy or constructive.

I just happen to have an outlet to express my own opinion. Maybe if Morley had an appropriate outlet her baby would still be alive.

The least you could do is post a few resources on your site to places that can help with post natal depression

This article isn’t about getting help with post natal depression. It’s about the bullshit going on in our courts where people who kill their children just cry mental illness and get off scott free without legal punishment.

I feel that if people care about anything enough to post publically about it, they should care enough to post in a way that is useful.

I’d like to see it as contructive criticisism of the Australian legal system in dealing with the mental illness defence rather then a commentary on post natal depression.

I just get annoyed by people who contribute to a painful situation in a negative way, and act as though they are superior. It’s total hypocrisy.

The least you could do is post a few resources on your site to places that can help with post natal depression, so that people who are seeking assistance end up in the right place, and not having to confront someone with ugly and ill-informed views.

Shrugging your shoulders and saying it’s “purely [your] opinion” may seem a convenient way to shirk your responsibilities as a member of society, but one of the biggest problems in the world today is that there is too much perpetuation of ignorance and hate, and those who contribute to that in small ways invariably contribute in larger ways too.

I feel that if people care about anything enough to post publically about it, they should care enough to post in a way that is useful.

I’m curious as to why you are so passionate about this when clearly it has never touched you. Why are you so angry?

There’s a whole bunch of things that have never touched me that I can be angry about. You don’t need to go through something to get angry about it.

If you are truly a compassionate person who cares about people

uh where did this sentiment come from? Way to superimpose your own social and moral values onto myself.

Yeah I care about people but I’m not about to go try for any captain humanity awards any time soon.

If you lost your child in similar circumstances, would you be crying about money?

I didn’t take it as him crying about money, but rather the Morley family don’t have their priorities straight. Fund massive legal campaign to get your daughter off murder and then go into financial damage control. This includes ‘disposing’ of husband who no doubt would take his children dying lightly.

I thought it was pretty clear.

And why is there a violent restraining order against him? You don’t just go out and pick up a violent restraining order at the newsagent

Morley managed to avoid a blatant murder charge, getting a restraining order against anyone would have been a comparative walk in the park.

Ranting on a blog about things you are ignorant of is not a pathway to wisdom and growth, and has the potential to add pain to an already painful situation, which helps nobody.

Well it sure helped me, I feel a hell of a lot better.

I don’t profess to be the media although I acknowledge in part I am a part of it. I don’t break any news stories per say but merely offer commentary on what’s going on in our world. About as close to actual breaking news is my writings about life in Taiwan, for the most part because the country largely hasn’t been written about.

Social commentary is purely my opinion and isn’t designed to be a breaking news platform for others.

Oh, indeed?

I’m curious as to why you are so passionate about this when clearly it has never touched you. Why are you so angry? Is there a part of you that is challenged by the thought that you, too, could end up in a dire situation and manage it badly? Taking your fear of your own weaknesses out on someone you know nothing about isn’t a skilful way to approach these concerns.

If you are truly a compassionate person who cares about people (and not just “children” because it’s easier) then take a step back and consider this from a more compassionate (and indeed logical) standpoint.

Consider that you might not know the whole story. Ask yourself if the husband is such a victim why has he said “This is all about money” in his comment above? His child has died but to him it is all about money? If you lost your child in similar circumstances, would you be crying about money? And why is there a violent restraining order against him? You don’t just go out and pick up a violent restraining order at the newsagent – he must have done something to warrant this. His comments seem very strange to me – I don’t see how his wife’s family being rich is at all relevant. Very odd. It makes me wonder whether he gave his wife any support or was in fact a big part of the problem…

Also consider how often the media puts sensationalism before truth. Look at the fact that *you* are part of the media and think about how much research you have done into this story (it’s clear that you haven’t done much at all).

I feel that there are many things you have failed to see or consider. Part of growing up is to try to open your mind and gain wisdom. Ranting on a blog about things you are ignorant of is not a pathway to wisdom and growth, and has the potential to add pain to an already painful situation, which helps nobody.

I am not saying that people shouldn’t speak out against the terrible things that happen in the world – but I do feel that people should take a measured, informed and useful approach to dealing with such things. We will never achieve anything in society if all we do is hysterically point fingers at each other.

Of course, this is a symptom of the sheltered lives lived by many of us today. I’ve noticed over the years that people who see things as black and white are always people who lack life experience. This is understandable as these people naturally lack the vision, wisdom or compassion to consider possibilities that are difficult or make them uncomfortable.

Still, there is hope for everyone.

I don’t profess to be the be all and end all of common sense and responsible thinking but sometimes it worries me just how idiotic certain factions of modern society have become.

You are saying what I’m thinking. Good on you. Common sense and responsible thinking for a change. How refreshing. I thought I was the only one with your opinions.

If anything her killing a baby has given other people who can live in a reasonable manner with mental illnesses a bad name. Not everyone is immoral enough to do this.

All I’m seeing is a woman who refused to take personal responsibility for her actions.

I’m so sorry you not only lost your son but also had the finger pointed at you in court Chris, that must have been terrible.

My best wishes are with you.

That’s never happened before.

I know Rebecca and have discussed the realities of the case.

Ah so that’s where you’re coming from. Well all I can say is you guys can hold hands and pretend it didn’t happen and teddybear it up as much as you want. Rebecca killed a child, went to court claiming she had told everyone she had some sort of post natal depression, got let off and then retracted her defense.

You know if it smells like bullshit…

“Murdered” her baby – you have no right to claim this as this was not the charge nor the finding.

Alright she killed her baby. OH MY GOD EVERYONE HOLD HANDS AND DANCE! I feel so much better for her now.

“If she could shrug it off so blase” – says who?? Your colourful and ill-informed comments are bordering on the slanderous.

If you can explain why she retracted her ‘I had mental illness’ defense then please do so. I think you’re taking opinion a little too seriously because you’re involved personally with the ‘victim’.