Scientology Soldier's Sizzling Suicide
Whilst the public run around bashing the Australian police at every opportunity they get, the media’s attention has recently seemed to focus on our military.
If we’re not blaming them for being cautious in dealing with asylum shoppers who have just blown up their own boat, then we’re accusing them of having something to do with the death of anti-social loners like Edward McBride.
I love news articles like this.
AN army private found dead in mysterious circumstances had been bullied by others in his unit for keeping to himself and refusing to get drunk, a court has been told.
An inquest into his death got underway in the Brisbane Coroners Court today, where evidence was heard that Mr McBride had been the victim of bullying while in the army.
Ooh that doesn’t sound good. His big bad buddies in the military were bullying him around were they?
Former private Benton Davidson told the court he recalled an incident when Mr McBride had been king hit to the head for declining to skol a cocktail of drinks from a helmet.
“There was a fair bit of peer pressure to drink (and) I knew that McBride didn’t drink,” Mr Davidson said.
“They took offence to it and punched him.”
Admittedly if true, that’s a bit rough. Although it does sound a bit far fetched. Since when has someone gotten upset over having more alcohol to themselves when someone refuses a drink?
The article does mention that Davidson is a former private but makes no mention as to why he left the army. Yeah, no chance of any bias there.
Mr Davidson described Mr McBride as a hard worker and “easily approachable”, but added he was quiet and tried not to draw attention to himself.
The court was told this did not win him favour with other members of his section, who described him as “not very likeable” and “strange”.
So from the sounds of it, we have an anti-social non-drinker (not that there’s anything wrong with not drinking) who everyone thought was strange and not-likeable. Generally speaking, and I’m going out on a limb here, people don’t just find you strange and non-likeable – especially in the army.
I mean you’re hanging around these people a lot and at some point potentially entrusting your life into their hands so despite a bit of rough stuff you’d have to be trying pretty hard to be the regiment loner.
After the article is done army bashing, what should have been in the first paragraph is then mentioned in passing.
Mr McBride’s father, Alan McBride, gave evidence he had believed his son to be “buoyant” and planning a new career in the weeks leading up to his death.
He said his son had been planning on getting out of the army and that he had aspirations to become an auditor with the Church of Scientology, which he had joined 18 months earlier.
Ah, good old Scientology. Yes I’m sure that had nothing to do with anything.
Incase anyone’s wondering what a Scientology ‘auditor’ is, apparently it’s a bunch of people trained to listen to people, give them counselling and then manipulate them via mild hypnosis.
Yeah this keeps getting better and better.
Edward McBride was found hanging at an energy station up in Brisbane. The cause of his death curiously wasn’t found to be hanging but rather via electrocution.
McBride was also a trained electrician.
The sad thing is even if this poor bugger was feeling down and needed some help, Scientology practically forbids him from seeking out conventional treatment methods. A now infamous case in the states cited that the church took away anti-depressant medication from one of its members.
A mother has sued the Church of Scientology after her son, Kyle Brennan, 20, committed suicide. He was on antidepressants, but his father Thomas Brennan allegedly took away the prescription drugs as part of his Scientology beliefs.
After only one week with his father in Clearwater, Florida, Kyle committed suicide.
Then of course there was Tom Cruise running around a few years back now publicly having a go over Brooke Shield’s use of anti-depressants to treat post natal depression.
So what’s more probable, McBride’s army buddies actually hoisting the guy up and electrocuting him for being anti-social and strange, or the trained electrician setting himself up with some rope on an electricity station and ending his life?
If true I’m definitely not trying to excuse the bullying accusations, but I think there’s probably way more here at play then simple army shenanigans.





September 8th, 2009 at 10:34 am Stephen McBride (brother of Edward McBride)(Quote)
I’m disgusted at your website. There is a coroners inquiry to figure out if it is murder or suicide. I felt sick in the stomach when I read the title of this story. You have already made up your mind that it is “suicide” – What my parents, remaining brother and myself have gone through is unimaginable, then we have a 2 bit, wanna be journalist like yourself that turns this whole situation into a sarcastic joke. There is a lot more evidence that the general public and jokers like you aren’t aware off and therefore cant be put on the news websites. He was in the 4RAR Commando Regiment, had 1 week left to go then he had done his 4 years in that shithole. He rang me on the Monday to pick him up from the airport on the Friday (Perth – that’s where we live) – he sounded great, happy and not a inkling of being suicidal, furthermost from the truth. He was dead a few days later. He served his country for four years and thats what the army did to him..
September 8th, 2009 at 10:47 am ozsoapbox(Quote)
Hi Stephen I’m sorry for your personal loss and thankyou for sharing your thoughts.
It’s worth noting that someone who is depressed or in need of some help can very easily present an ‘everything’s ok’ front. How many times have we heard ‘but we never saw it coming’ when people commit suicide when it makes the news?
I haven’t completely ruled out the possibility that the army is to blame, but I think with Scientology involved there’s a high chance there’s more to the story. At this stage my opinion is suicide and whilst I appreciate it’s probably not what you wan’t to hear I think the Scientology might have played a part.
Out of curiosity was Edward alone in the religion or is it a family thing?
September 8th, 2009 at 6:08 pm Boris(Quote)
I have had some dealings with the “church” of $cientology in the past and they certainly can help push a vulnerable person over the edge. I was in their office in Pitt St Sydney when one of their auditors had a young girl in a terrible state. I told the auditor to f*** off or I would deck him and took the girl outside. She was overjoyed to be “rescued”.
September 9th, 2009 at 12:23 pm Stephen McBride(Quote)
Hi Soapbox,
Thank you for the reply, posting my message and the condolences. We were all raised as Catholics (we’re originally from Belfast – Northern Ireland) and then Ed(ward) somehow got into Scientology 2 years into being in the army.. My family didn’t condone it, but of course he’s free to do as he see’s fit. I must admit that he did change, but in actual fact, a good way.. His way of thought, way of composing himself, the way he spoke was “robotic”, very clear and concise. He thought “outside the square” so to speak. I’m not sure if that was the army or scientology. He told me once that when he was on “R ‘n’ R” in Sydney that he was standing beside some bus stop and out of instinct he saw some grubby dirty street sign and started polishing it !! Yep, that’s a bit weird.
As we speak (Wednesday) the scientology have been brought into the coroners inquiry to make a statement (my father ‘Alan’ is over there while I look after mum here in Perth) – but those gutless cowards have brought the lawyers in instead of an actual real person to make a statement. Ed was told prior to his death that he had a position over in America somewhere to become an ‘auditor’ and he was looking forward to it. New adventure, so to speak.. My brother had a zest for life – qualified electrical fitter, worked up north on the mines (wa), black belt in Taekwondo, 5 years Muay Thai kickboxing (full contact) with myself, back packed through Europe for 3 years on his own, skydived, etc.. He had a zest for life and I can assure you that death was the last thing on his mind. There is foul play. I will stop at nothing to get to the bottom of this. Be rest assured that if I don’t get a satisfactory explanation at the end of this inquiry, I will be taking this to the media (A current affair / today tonight, etc) and blow this wide open. I’m even prepapred to sell my house, car to fund this.
If you’d like more info “ozsoapbox” or pics of him, etc, no probs – you have my email address..
I really despise the army, they come around to my parents house out off “duty of care” knowing exactly what happened and put this charade on. Thanks again for posting my previous comment, I just needed to put it right that’s all. There is so much anger built up inside me, because I want to get to the bottom of this.. My brothers life was worth more than “skulling” alcohol out of some god damn army helmet. You cant put a price on a life..
September 9th, 2009 at 1:45 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
No worries Stephen. Anything I write on OzSoapbox I’m happy to be critqued or challenged on, it’s not like I write gospel or something.
I’m kinda curious that Scientology lawyers were called into the coroners enquiry, do you have any more information on that?
It’s not like they call the pope in everytime a catholic person dies so it’s certainly interesting. The fact lawyers are already involved sounds to me like the church thinks they have something to defend themselves from.
I hope for your sake you get to the bottom of what happened, good luck.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:17 am Roly(Quote)
Scientology, just another bunch of greedy mindbenders.
Just to clarify, it is the unnamed media you quote who have concluded the death was suicide.
Secondly, there is a world of difference between found hanged and found hanging. He could well have been found hanging after electrocution. The media is full of jurnos filling in the gaps by guesswork and getting it wrong.
Cannon fired! Gunfight at St Pat’s, or another pedo dismissed?
October 19th, 2009 at 1:54 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Surprise Surprise a coroner has ruled out the army as the cause of death, instead finding that McBride took his own life via electrocution.
Interestingly enough the coroner also ruled out Scientology (why would a religion need to be called into question over a suicide in the first place?), however;
What’s the bet this ‘audit’ is what did him in? I’m curious as to how Scientology was ruled out as a cause without this audit being admitted as evidence.
October 19th, 2009 at 11:27 pm mike(Quote)
To
Stephen McBride
There are many cases documented where individuals become quite upset(even suicidal) after scientology’s personality test – the most recent one that comes to mind is in the following link -
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article2371180.ece
- a google search will provide many more examples
October 20th, 2009 at 12:03 am Vir(Quote)
Stephen, my condolences.
The case Mike posted a link to was one where the customer killed herself on the same day as being told that she was worthless and a burden on the family by a Scientology salesperson. She was not involved in Scientology before that.
What might be more relevant to your case might be the Patrice Vic case, also in France. Scientologists were convicted for driving him to suicide over a long period of time.
This also reminds me of the electrocution death of Stacy Meyer at Scientology’s desert compound in California. Her father Kendrick Moxon is lawyer for Scientology, and he decided to defend Scientology in that case.
October 20th, 2009 at 12:04 pm Tom(Quote)
As soon as I see someone say anti-social when they mean unsocial, I immediately right them off as an idiot and skip the article.
For those who don’t know, anti-social are those who commit violent or malicious acts against society-such as criminals. The term unsocial refers to individuals who are withdrawn from social interaction.
October 20th, 2009 at 12:19 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Considering one of the definitions of anti-social is “unwilling or unable to associate in a normal or friendly way with other people”, you might want to rethink your position.
I usually try not to write people off as idiots until they’ve shown themselves to be one. I think this is one of those times.
October 20th, 2009 at 5:21 pm mike(Quote)
It would be helpful for the commission of inquiry to view the scientology personality test that edward completed – could possibly answer some questions as to why he felt the way he did.
As scientology advertise they will find your ruin – maybe they found edwards?
October 20th, 2009 at 8:36 pm Boris(Quote)
I have just read the Norwegian link in Mike’s post above, and can state categorically that the church of $cientology reps quoted are a bunch of outright liars. I have experienced first hand the dastardly tactics used to try to suck in vulnerable young people to their evil cult. Their personality test is nothing but a hammer blow to the head of anyone who is even mildly susceptible to this type of pressure. Once this cult has your personal details on file it engages in a process of constant bombardment to try to get you to pay big bucks for their load of rubbish “religion”. Any weakness (and we all have them) is ruthlessly exploited, so their leaders can live lives only paralleled by the imagination of Tony “delete” Rush etc
October 21st, 2009 at 1:51 am RT(Quote)
Anybody else notice that the Liberty Leaguers/Polaris Media Groupies come out of the wordwork to defend their compensation plan and their amazing products and the awesome conferences but NO WHERE can I find where they have disputed the Scientology connection? Think about how scary that connection is: the vulnerable get lured in not with a personality test, but with the promise and the hope of making money, and when the financial results don’t happen BOOM they’re told “oh, it must be because of you.” And then you find out all the “leaders” have been to the L. Ron Hubbard communication course and they’ve got you hook, line and sinker. Except this time it’s not for a measly $25,000 or so. The complete Scientology curriculum is more like $600,000. Unless you are an active RECRUITER.
October 21st, 2009 at 8:49 am ozsoapbox(Quote)
Admittedly I don’t know all that much about Scientology beyond the whole aliens thing, the infamous Hubbard quote and all this ‘auditing/finding out your dirty secrets’ stuff.
Still from the sounds of it Polaris and Scientology seem to share alot of the same design when you get down to the theory of it and what’s behind their products.
I can’t help but wonder if the reason there’s no discrediting of the connection is because there is one or if it’s just part of their ‘ignore everything that’s negative’ mantra. I’d love to see some random just go up to Krider and ask ‘so what’s up with you and scientology’ some time
.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:14 am Larry Smith(Quote)
He admits it! Nothing to hide.
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:51 am mike(Quote)
October 23, 2009
Article from: The Australian
Church of Scientology defied coroner on suicide
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26247876-2702,00.html
Selected text follow -
“THE Church of Scientology refused to provide records demanded by a coroner investigating the death of a soldier”
“It emerged yesterday that the American headquarters of the church instructed its Australian branch to send the soldier’s “audit file” to the US — which is outside the coroner’s jurisdiction — before warrants were issued.”
“McBride had paid the church $25,000 for the courses and finished the last one two days before he died.”
“In the days leading up to McBride’s death, church members tried to contact him repeatedly on his mobile phone, and sent text and voice messages mentioning an “audit” and “LRH” — a reference to Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.”
“The coroner said it appeared he had expressed a wish to take a break but until then had enjoyed only positive interactions with the church. “It is clear to me that the degree of forcefulness and amount of contact from church members over those few days is indicative of something more than concerns about completing an administrative process at the completion of his course”
- looks like normal scientology procedure here.
October 23rd, 2009 at 2:51 am anonymous(Quote)
interesting point from anonymous post on whyweprotest.net -
” Well, you have a “religion” that tells people death is nothing more than “dropping your body” and simply picking up a new one.
What’s to stop a troubled individual from thinking death is an appealing way to just start over in hopes of a better next life?
For that matter, when death is of so little signifigance to them, what’s to stop one from taking someone else’s life either? ”
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:30 pm fran(Quote)
There’s been countless times the scientology called me incessantly which truly caused me to experience suicidal feelings. They are obsessive about making you do whatever it is they want you to do, whether it is to pay thousands of dollars for the very next course/auditing level on the tail of completing the last one (and working out ways to make you take out a loan too against your better judgement and protests), demanding you come in to have an interview or to see the ethics officer to get you back in line. I had to get a silent number as a result.
Also of note Vicki Dunstan lies routinely when speaking in the media. Examples are easily found.
I am so sorry that this guy experienced the routine scientology manipulation. My condolences to his family.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:07 am Kenji - Melbourne Anonymous(Quote)
The Church of Scientology has caused many deaths in their time (ie. Lisa McPherson), regardless if it is suicide, the fact remains that the CoS has driven many people to suicide through their mentally torturous ways, which in effect is MURDER.
Melbanon (Melbourne Anonymous) will be protesting against the Church of Scientology once more on November 21st, in the CBD. More info on the Melbanon Site.
We will be letting the public know about the death of Edward McBride, as well as the multiple other deaths, human rights violations, etc.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:18 am theswellseason(Quote)
Stephen, I’m not sure if you’re still watching this, but firstly I want to give you and your family my condolences. I lost both my aunt and uncle to suicide, so I respect how your family must be feeling right now. If you are able/interested I would like you to check out whyweprotest.net. The site is, as mentioned above, dedicated to protesting Scientology. There are several stories similar to your brother’s, and it is standard procedure for them to hide things. We would like to use our public stance to perhaps help you bring this to media attention here in the states, and help get those files released so that your family can have some closure. If you would like to contact me you can email me at swell@anonnet.org. Best wishes to your family in this tough time.
October 29th, 2009 at 1:28 am Kenji - Melbourne Anonymous(Quote)
I’d recommend for any people in Brisbane who knew Edward McBride who wishes to protest against the Church of Scientology for what they’ve done, you should check out whyweprotest.net and find your local anon cell to protest with.
Same goes for anyone in other states who either knew him, or his family, or is simply pissed off about how the CoS were involved and have behaved.
Melbourne Anonymous (www.melbanon.com) will be protesting against the Church on the 21st of November and will be informing the public regarding how the Church of Scientology was involved in the death of Edward McBride.
We wish the family of Mr. McBride our sincerest condolences for your loss. And we hope his death is not in vain.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:55 pm Mark(Quote)
To Stephen McBride and the McBride family, may I firstly send my sincere condolences to you all.
Stephen, if your still viewing this forum may I ask that you contact me via the e-mail address that I have provided to ozsoapbox.
I would really like to talk to you about you brother and what he may have went through while serving in the Army. I am currently in the military and for the past 10 years I have been fighting them in the hope that they would realise that they can not treat there junior staff as jokes or objects to be made fun of. I am not in the Army but I did work in an Army Unit for just over one and a half years on loan from one of the other services (Navy/Air Force). I felt very sorry for some of the young guys in the way that they were treated by there fellow soldiers and SNCOs.
Like many, I was amazed and dismayed by the Brisbane Coroner (Cr John Lock) and his finding that the Military /Army did not contribute or was not instrumental in your brother’s death. I have read the 31 page report from Cr John Lock and would like to discuss a few matters with you.
Stephen as stated above if you do wish to contact me please e-mail me so that we can discuss this matter before the military decide if a Commission of Enquiry should be appointed.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:55 pm mike(Quote)
To Stephen McBride
While the above post by Mark is most likely genuine , please be aware that there is a certain group that would like to steer you away from looking closely at their possible involvement
ie – Be sure he is who he says he is
All the best to you and your family.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:39 pm Jen(Quote)
This is very important. A few hours ago, an article was released in the St Petersburg Times. It states that American Scientology spokesman Tommy Davis released to them documents from church files, including confessions, ethics orders and Suppressive Person declarations. Got it? Scientology, who is trying to claim “confessional privilege” and not release audit files for Edward McBride, has actually released those files, on living people without their permission, to defend itself to the press.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/scientology/from-scientologys-files/1048132
Mr McBride, there are a lot of people supporting you and your family, and we are working very hard to make sure that Scientology can not do this to another person, and they are held accountable where accountability is due.
November 1st, 2009 at 10:02 pm Boris(Quote)
In a way I compare myself with Edward McBride and wonder, if in similar circumstances how I would have acted. I too immigrated from Ireland in the 1980′s, travelled around, went back to Europe and Asia over a number of years before finally getting my act together and settling in Sydney. I wonder how I could sleep at night knowing I had given $25,000 away ($20k borrowed) to an organization which only demanded more obedience and more money. $20,000 on a personal loan over 7 years would cost about $75 dollars a week. Where would that money come from? It’s a heck of a lot for someone who is not convinced their future is secure. On top of any other issues, this is the sort of thing which could drive any of us to despair. All the best to the McBride Family, and especially Stephen who has showed great love and respect for his brother. Go ndeanai Dia trocaire ar a anam dilis.
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:56 am mike(Quote)
Here is some relevant scientology doctrine –
HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE
37 Fitzroy Street, London, W.1
HCO POLICY LETTER OF 15 AUGUST 1960
Re-issued from Sthil
Assn Secs
HCO Secs
DEPT OF GOVT AFFAIRS
quote -
In the face of danger from Govts or courts there are only two errors one can make: (a) do nothing and (b) defend.
The right things to do with any threat are to
(1) Find out if we want to play the offered game or not,
(2) If not, to derail the offered game with a feint or attack upon the most vulnerable point. which can be disclosed in the enemy ranks,
(3) Make enough threat or clamor to cause the enemy to quail,
(4) Don’t try to get any money out of it,
(5) Make every attack by us also sell Scientology and
(6) Win.
If attacked on some vulnerable point by anyone or anything or any organization, always find or manufacture enough threat against them to cause them to sue for peace. Peace is bought with an exchange of advantage, so make the advantage and then settle. Don’t ever defend. Always attack. Don’t ever do nothing. Unexpected attacks in the rear of the enemy’s front ranks work best.
- end quote
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November 9th, 2009 at 7:47 am Anonymous(Quote)
I’m a military person myself, though not in Australia. I can’t believe that any self respecting serviceman would kill a fellow in uniform. Scientology on the other hand has a history of coercion and murder.
November 9th, 2009 at 12:50 pm David Mudkips(Quote)
Stephan,
I don’t know if you’re still following the comments here… but, please (PLEASE!) don’t summarily dismiss Scientology as a possible contributor to your brother’s demise.
I feel for you. I lost my own brother to suicide as a teenager.
I’m not suggesting I have any inkling what was going on in your brother’s army life, or even that his death was a suicide.
What I can tell you is that I *DO* have a pretty good grasp on what he would have been experiencing in Scientology at the stage he was at with it.
He would have been “love bombed” — given promises of great growth and great reward… and a huge feeling of acceptance by those who were recruiting him. For anyone, this would feel great. For someone who was troubled, harassed, or an outcast… it would have been more than great. It would have been like a drug.
The amount of psychological leverage Scientology can get out of a situation like your brothers’ is frightening. When I read about the incessant phone calls from Scientology immediately prior to his death… and of their running his files out of the country thereafter, I was reminded of the case of Lisa McPherson. Google her name if you don’t know the story yet.
Again, I’m deeply sorry for your loss. I hope you, and the rest of your family, find peace.
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