I don’t know if you’re still following the comments here… but, please (PLEASE!) don’t summarily dismiss Scientology as a possible contributor to your brother’s demise.

I feel for you. I lost my own brother to suicide as a teenager.

I’m not suggesting I have any inkling what was going on in your brother’s army life, or even that his death was a suicide.

What I can tell you is that I *DO* have a pretty good grasp on what he would have been experiencing in Scientology at the stage he was at with it.

He would have been “love bombed” — given promises of great growth and great reward… and a huge feeling of acceptance by those who were recruiting him. For anyone, this would feel great. For someone who was troubled, harassed, or an outcast… it would have been more than great. It would have been like a drug.

The amount of psychological leverage Scientology can get out of a situation like your brothers’ is frightening. When I read about the incessant phone calls from Scientology immediately prior to his death… and of their running his files out of the country thereafter, I was reminded of the case of Lisa McPherson. Google her name if you don’t know the story yet.

Again, I’m deeply sorry for your loss. I hope you, and the rest of your family, find peace.

HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE
37 Fitzroy Street, London, W.1

HCO POLICY LETTER OF 15 AUGUST 1960
Re-issued from Sthil

Assn Secs
HCO Secs

DEPT OF GOVT AFFAIRS

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In the face of danger from Govts or courts there are only two errors one can make: (a) do nothing and (b) defend.
The right things to do with any threat are to
(1) Find out if we want to play the offered game or not,
(2) If not, to derail the offered game with a feint or attack upon the most vulnerable point. which can be disclosed in the enemy ranks,
(3) Make enough threat or clamor to cause the enemy to quail,
(4) Don’t try to get any money out of it,
(5) Make every attack by us also sell Scientology and
(6) Win.
If attacked on some vulnerable point by anyone or anything or any organization, always find or manufacture enough threat against them to cause them to sue for peace. Peace is bought with an exchange of advantage, so make the advantage and then settle. Don’t ever defend. Always attack. Don’t ever do nothing. Unexpected attacks in the rear of the enemy’s front ranks work best.

- end quote

http://www.tampabay.com/news/scientology/from-scientologys-files/1048132

Mr McBride, there are a lot of people supporting you and your family, and we are working very hard to make sure that Scientology can not do this to another person, and they are held accountable where accountability is due.

While the above post by Mark is most likely genuine , please be aware that there is a certain group that would like to steer you away from looking closely at their possible involvement

ie – Be sure he is who he says he is

All the best to you and your family.

Stephen, if your still viewing this forum may I ask that you contact me via the e-mail address that I have provided to ozsoapbox.

I would really like to talk to you about you brother and what he may have went through while serving in the Army. I am currently in the military and for the past 10 years I have been fighting them in the hope that they would realise that they can not treat there junior staff as jokes or objects to be made fun of. I am not in the Army but I did work in an Army Unit for just over one and a half years on loan from one of the other services (Navy/Air Force). I felt very sorry for some of the young guys in the way that they were treated by there fellow soldiers and SNCOs.

Like many, I was amazed and dismayed by the Brisbane Coroner (Cr John Lock) and his finding that the Military /Army did not contribute or was not instrumental in your brother’s death. I have read the 31 page report from Cr John Lock and would like to discuss a few matters with you.

Stephen as stated above if you do wish to contact me please e-mail me so that we can discuss this matter before the military decide if a Commission of Enquiry should be appointed.

Melbourne Anonymous (www.melbanon.com) will be protesting against the Church on the 21st of November and will be informing the public regarding how the Church of Scientology was involved in the death of Edward McBride.

We wish the family of Mr. McBride our sincerest condolences for your loss. And we hope his death is not in vain.

Melbanon (Melbourne Anonymous) will be protesting against the Church of Scientology once more on November 21st, in the CBD. More info on the Melbanon Site.

We will be letting the public know about the death of Edward McBride, as well as the multiple other deaths, human rights violations, etc.

Also of note Vicki Dunstan lies routinely when speaking in the media. Examples are easily found.

I am so sorry that this guy experienced the routine scientology manipulation. My condolences to his family.

” Well, you have a “religion” that tells people death is nothing more than “dropping your body” and simply picking up a new one.
What’s to stop a troubled individual from thinking death is an appealing way to just start over in hopes of a better next life?

For that matter, when death is of so little signifigance to them, what’s to stop one from taking someone else’s life either? “

Church of Scientology defied coroner on suicide

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26247876-2702,00.html

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“THE Church of Scientology refused to provide records demanded by a coroner investigating the death of a soldier”

“It emerged yesterday that the American headquarters of the church instructed its Australian branch to send the soldier’s “audit file” to the US — which is outside the coroner’s jurisdiction — before warrants were issued.”

“McBride had paid the church $25,000 for the courses and finished the last one two days before he died.”

“In the days leading up to McBride’s death, church members tried to contact him repeatedly on his mobile phone, and sent text and voice messages mentioning an “audit” and “LRH” — a reference to Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.”

“The coroner said it appeared he had expressed a wish to take a break but until then had enjoyed only positive interactions with the church. “It is clear to me that the degree of forcefulness and amount of contact from church members over those few days is indicative of something more than concerns about completing an administrative process at the completion of his course”

- looks like normal scientology procedure here.

Still from the sounds of it Polaris and Scientology seem to share alot of the same design when you get down to the theory of it and what’s behind their products.

I can’t help but wonder if the reason there’s no discrediting of the connection is because there is one or if it’s just part of their ‘ignore everything that’s negative’ mantra. I’d love to see some random just go up to Krider and ask ’so what’s up with you and scientology’ some time .

As scientology advertise they will find your ruin – maybe they found edwards?