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	<title>Comments on: WAR ON MEN: Two Aussie women legally declared male</title>
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		<title>By: ozsoapbox</title>
		<link>http://ozsoapbox.com/rest-of-australia/war-on-men-two-australian-women-legally-declared-male/#comment-45713</link>
		<dc:creator>ozsoapbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 04:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose you&#039;d wholly support the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/same-sex-parents-should-foster-not-play-politics/story-fn6b3v4f-1226135313446&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;two nutjobs who decided it&#039;d be a good idea to dress the six year old male child under their foster care as a girl and publish the photos on Facebook&lt;/a&gt; in some sort of misguided political statement then?

The gender lines need to be drawn somewhere. Erode the races fine... but gender? That&#039;s only setting us up for a whole world of trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose you&#8217;d wholly support the <a href="http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/same-sex-parents-should-foster-not-play-politics/story-fn6b3v4f-1226135313446" rel="nofollow">two nutjobs who decided it&#8217;d be a good idea to dress the six year old male child under their foster care as a girl and publish the photos on Facebook</a> in some sort of misguided political statement then?</p>
<p>The gender lines need to be drawn somewhere. Erode the races fine&#8230; but gender? That&#8217;s only setting us up for a whole world of trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: Declan</title>
		<link>http://ozsoapbox.com/rest-of-australia/war-on-men-two-australian-women-legally-declared-male/#comment-45661</link>
		<dc:creator>Declan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh. I&#039;m embarrassed for all Aussie blokes reading this. You make us all look like close-minded intolerant Neanderthals. Live and let live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh. I&#8217;m embarrassed for all Aussie blokes reading this. You make us all look like close-minded intolerant Neanderthals. Live and let live.</p>
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		<title>By: ozsoapbox</title>
		<link>http://ozsoapbox.com/rest-of-australia/war-on-men-two-australian-women-legally-declared-male/#comment-6603</link>
		<dc:creator>ozsoapbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well following this case, in WA at least the current legal threshold would appear to be &#039;Hi I got my breasts removed and I promise to take testosterone pills for the rest of my natural life&#039;.

Not sure if this is nationally binding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well following this case, in WA at least the current legal threshold would appear to be &#8216;Hi I got my breasts removed and I promise to take testosterone pills for the rest of my natural life&#8217;.</p>
<p>Not sure if this is nationally binding.</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen-D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Citizen-D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-2001&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2001&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fitzroyalty&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Coud you explain how the choices made by these men impact on you? Your post seems devoid of argument but full of prejudice.

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The whole article is about how it impacts him you clown - it&#039;s called an &#039;opinion&#039; (fancy finding one of those on a blog with &#039;soapbox&#039; in the title).

To everyone else paying attention I have a question.  If I have gender reassignment surgery, what am I classified as legally?  Perhaps any lawyers out there might chime in, but does the classification depend on my intent?  It can&#039;t be based on a physical attribute as this case now proves.  What is the current legal threshold for gender?</description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-2001" rel="nofollow">Fitzroyalty</a></strong>: Coud you explain how the choices made by these men impact on you? Your post seems devoid of argument but full of prejudice.</p>
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<p>The whole article is about how it impacts him you clown &#8211; it&#8217;s called an &#8216;opinion&#8217; (fancy finding one of those on a blog with &#8216;soapbox&#8217; in the title).</p>
<p>To everyone else paying attention I have a question.  If I have gender reassignment surgery, what am I classified as legally?  Perhaps any lawyers out there might chime in, but does the classification depend on my intent?  It can&#8217;t be based on a physical attribute as this case now proves.  What is the current legal threshold for gender?</p>
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		<title>By: ozsoapbox</title>
		<link>http://ozsoapbox.com/rest-of-australia/war-on-men-two-australian-women-legally-declared-male/#comment-6598</link>
		<dc:creator>ozsoapbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Coud you explain how the choices made by these men impact on you?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I thought the argument was so obvious I didn&#039;t bother to focus on it. I&#039;m appalled at the disregard of one of the symbolic and prominant male features in classifying someone as male.

How does it impact me? Well how stupid is it now that I&#039;m competing against vagina men at bars now?

What if one of them entered a male cooking and cleaning competition I was in, talk about unfair advantages geez.

If you have a penis you&#039;re a guy, if you have a vagina you&#039;re a female. End of story.

Stupid legal legislation like this just blurs the lines and opens up a can of societal worms the rest of us have to deal with. I have no problems with women living as men or men living as women or people having operations done to change genders, but just taking a testosterone pill and leaving your vagina intact should never have been enough to legally declare someone a male.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Coud you explain how the choices made by these men impact on you?</p></blockquote>
<p>I thought the argument was so obvious I didn&#8217;t bother to focus on it. I&#8217;m appalled at the disregard of one of the symbolic and prominant male features in classifying someone as male.</p>
<p>How does it impact me? Well how stupid is it now that I&#8217;m competing against vagina men at bars now?</p>
<p>What if one of them entered a male cooking and cleaning competition I was in, talk about unfair advantages geez.</p>
<p>If you have a penis you&#8217;re a guy, if you have a vagina you&#8217;re a female. End of story.</p>
<p>Stupid legal legislation like this just blurs the lines and opens up a can of societal worms the rest of us have to deal with. I have no problems with women living as men or men living as women or people having operations done to change genders, but just taking a testosterone pill and leaving your vagina intact should never have been enough to legally declare someone a male.</p>
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		<title>By: Fitzroyalty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fitzroyalty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 07:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coud you explain how the choices made by these men impact on you? Your post seems devoid of argument but full of prejudice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coud you explain how the choices made by these men impact on you? Your post seems devoid of argument but full of prejudice.</p>
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		<title>By: ozsoapbox</title>
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		<dc:creator>ozsoapbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 06:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Dont want nuts like this in thu gene pool anyway.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well that&#039;s until they want kids. Then these women will just stop taking their testosteron pills and conceive. If anyone questions their ations they&#039;ll just harp on about how it&#039;s a mans right to bear children.

Currently the systems just taken them on their word that they won&#039;t ever stop taking their pills. Bulletproof much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Dont want nuts like this in thu gene pool anyway.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well that&#8217;s until they want kids. Then these women will just stop taking their testosteron pills and conceive. If anyone questions their ations they&#8217;ll just harp on about how it&#8217;s a mans right to bear children.</p>
<p>Currently the systems just taken them on their word that they won&#8217;t ever stop taking their pills. Bulletproof much?</p>
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		<title>By: Elbowgrease</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elbowgrease</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont want nuts like this in thu gene pool anyway. They would fit right into Collingwoods playlist though. ;}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont want nuts like this in thu gene pool anyway. They would fit right into Collingwoods playlist though. ;}</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen-D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Citizen-D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s ridiculous isn&#039;t it?  Welcome to the modern world.  Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy knowing how progressive we are as a society.  Warm and fuzzy right down to my non gender specific gonads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s ridiculous isn&#8217;t it?  Welcome to the modern world.  Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy knowing how progressive we are as a society.  Warm and fuzzy right down to my non gender specific gonads.</p>
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