Why Australian police are a bunch of softcocks
Just two days ago I wrote about the horrendous decision by Geelong police to charge a taxi driver who scared the crap out of five dropkicks who egged his car.
The teenager that egged the car was let off with a caution.
The perpetrator getting off so lightly in this case is symptomatic of a much wider problem between the police force and the Australian court system. Simply put, it’s not worth the police dragging the egger into court as he’ll most likely be let off scott free or told to write a letter of apology to the taxi driver (who’ll probably be in jail by that point).
The above could just be dismissed as speculation on my part. I’m sure there’s more then one bleeding heart out there who’d happily cry about the young man’s right to drive around egging cars unhindered.
Of course then there’s the actions of the courts themselves proving such speculation correct time and time again. The Australian court system has our entire police force over a barrel…
…and they’re not using any lubrication.
Last year student Henry Grech got into an argument with Constable Adam Royds at Bondi Junction. No idea what it was about but being a student Grech was probably drunk or whatever, words were exchanged and Grech later found himself in court for calling Constable Royds a ‘prick’.
The outcome?
Waverley Local Court magistrate Robbie Williams wasn’t satisfied that a “reasonable person” would be offended by the word prick in general conversation.
“A police officer on a number of occurrences would hear words like this used on a much worse scale. Police officers would be used to this type of language.”
Sorry, but WHAT?
Since when were police ‘reasonable people’? And before anyone chimes in, no I don’t mean that in a sense that police are unreasonable. Why the hell is the court system comparing police officers to your average Joe Blow?
I’m not saying we need to put police on some pedestal but there’s surely a general consensus that that police officers are deserving of some level of respect out there whilst they’re doing their…y’know, jobs?
You try calling someone a prick in any other service role and see what kind of reaction you get. Not offended my arse. Maybe a few mates having a beer wouldn’t mind but nobody in any professional environment ever, let alone whilst on the job should have to put up with being called a prick.
It’s just not on.
With rulings like this it any wonder Australian police are reluctant to drag people into court? The next time you get caught throwing eggs at moving vehicles throw in a few ‘pricks’ at the officers who stop you and write out a caution ticket. Bloody brilliant move there by the courts and way to further castrate our police force. So planted firmly are the police’s tails between their legs that they’re not even going to appeal the decision.
Police prosecutors are unlikely to appeal against Mr Williams’ decision.
They know as much as the everyone else that appealing atrocious legal decisions against police made by our court system is simply a lost cause.
God help the Friday and Saturday night patrols… I can see every drunk running around our CBDs yelling prick at any cop that walks past.
Respect of the police force, especially the officers on the beat should be ingrained into our society and at the very least instilled via the court system. Sure there might be corruption probes and what not higher up but we’re talking about the guys and girls who you rely on when you dial 000. These are the people who put their life on the line by responding to any and all call outs night after night.
They don’t deserve and shouldn’t have to expect to be called a prick whilst doing their job. Nobody should.
Senior Constable Royds stopped Mr Grech on the station’s concourse area on November 5 last year after Mr Grech allegedly jumped a barrier.
The pair had an aggressive exchange of words before Mr Grech told the officer that he would “see him in court” if he continued to harass him.
Mr Grech then called Senior Constable Royds “a prick”.
Mr Grech, who is student at the University of NSW, said he was surprised the matter had been taken to court.
“I’m happy I got off.”
Grech’s words sum up the situation perfectly. Even he knows he ‘got off’ for doing something wrong and idiots and idiot decisions like this are why the police can’t and don’t do their job properly.
And what kind of moron threatens to see someone in court and then declares he’s surprised the matter was taken to court?
This decision by the Australian court system is appalling and only further highlights the complete lack of backing of our police force by the judicial system. At the very least Adam Royds deserves an apology and ruling that deters people from abusing the police.
The only pricks in this story are Henry Grech and Robbie Williams, the magistrate who handed down the decision.
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May 4th, 2010 at 10:50 am yi(Quote)
the penalty system in australia is too soft, thats why we have re-offenders & people behaving like lunatics every where, they know that all they’ll just get a slap on the hand.
May 4th, 2010 at 5:55 pm Paul(Quote)
Boo-hoo poor sensitive copper!
The next time someone calls you a prick, try and arrest them then. See if YOU get away with it!
May 4th, 2010 at 6:05 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
If I’m at work and someone calls me a prick I can refuse them service or have them removed.
Why should a cop have to put up with it? It’s not like they can just ignore someone or refuse them service.
May 4th, 2010 at 6:10 pm Lol(Quote)
ozsoapbox
you know theres alwalys two sides of the story. Its funny how no media outlet has given henry’s version of events. You should stop been a narrow minded ‘prick’ and look at the full circle.
May 4th, 2010 at 6:13 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
What’s Henry’s version of events going to be?
‘Yeah so there I was, doing nufink. I jumped the barrier and then dis pig comes out of da nowere and is all like ‘hey you you can’t jump the barrier!
So I was all lyke ‘STFU man, I can do what I want haven’t you heard of free speech? Leave me alone or I’ll take you to court. Then the pig was all lyke trying to give me a fine and shit so I said fuck off prick.
Den the pig got all upset and we went to court (WTF??) but I won. Hahahah lolz.’
Yeah I’m sure Henry’s version of events will totally justify calling police pricks.
May 4th, 2010 at 6:32 pm Lol(Quote)
What stereotyping and generalizations are now part of your argument? Thats real intellectual for someone writing a blog.
If you noticed in the story, it mentioned a “heated exchange”. I for 1, have seen over zealous cops completely abuse their power and harrass people for no good reason. Now im not saying this cop deserved it, but straight away jumping to the conclusion that he is free of blame and a victim is defintely short sighted.
May 4th, 2010 at 7:28 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Idiot breaks the law. Cop stops idiot. Idiot abuses cop. What part of this don’t you understand?
The heated exchange would have been a direct result of the cop confronting Grech. Given he called the cop a prick and there’s been no claim of wrong doing on the cops behalf I think it’s safe to assume Grech was being a knucklehead.
Grech doesn’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to defending his verbal abuse.
May 4th, 2010 at 9:29 pm et(Quote)
Sounds like your the type to call a cop a prick too eh?
Next time you need a “prick” to save your ass I hope they don’t come to your rescue.
May 5th, 2010 at 4:46 pm Uni Student(Quote)
Ozsoapbox, you have no idea what events occurred on the train station that day. I’m guessing your research into the matter goes no further than reading a short news article. I suggest you wait for the case to be published so you can read and understand it before you start another tirade based on a warped and flimsy news story. I find your estimation of Grech’s dialogue amusing, I can’t say I know many Uni students who speak like that.
You must understand that if Grech was convicted, it would set a ridiculous precedent that would bind subsequent NSW courts to further ridiculous decisions regarding the prosecution of foul language; clearly (and understandably) the magistrate didn’t want to be responsible for such idiocy.
And before you criticise the decision of the magistrate, you must realise that he is a highly qualified legal professional who was once a lawyer and was obviously good enough to be asked to be a magistrate. Unless you yourself are of the legal profession I hardly think your criticism of the decision should be taken seriously.
I’m guessing you’ll probably counter with something like “police don’t deserve to be spoken to like that”. This is true for the most part. However not all police are polite people and sometimes confrontations are unavoidable. Also, most police will tell you that they deal with this sort of thing all the time, and that if they were to prosecute everyone who spoke to them in this way it would complicate their jobs, back up the courts and increase the crime rate, as well as waste their time.
Just thought I’d try and open your mind to the consequences of the decision, although I’m not sure that you’ll appreciate my input.
May 5th, 2010 at 6:23 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
So please, enlighten me. Either you know the finer details of what happened or you know as much as I do and are just another ‘fuk da police’ gen Y rager.
Grech jumped a barrier at a train station and there’s no excuse for this, period. I’d love to hear the deluded justification for this.
Oh noes, how dare I question a legal decision! Anyone would think the judicial system was infallible and beyond criticism.
Are you a law student perhaps?
Watch how quickly it stops once a few people are sent to jail for 5-6 months or fined a substantial amount. As for the precedent, I’d welcome it.
May 6th, 2010 at 9:07 pm Uni Student(Quote)
I am gen Y, but I do not hate the police and have some family friends that are police, and their reaction to what happened is much the same as mine.
No I don’t know what occurred that day, but to assume what happened and make up your own series of events to satisfy the need for you to vent your frustration is not a responsible way to approach the issue.
I’m not saying what Grech did was right, I’m just saying that it does not warrant serious consequences. Also, if jumping a train station barrier is so reprehensible, why didn’t the police officer charge Grech for it? Maybe then he would have had a conviction, haha.
If Grech was convicted it would open the floodgates for any number of cases to be brought to court regarding offensive language. It would not stop people using foul language, to think that it would is not only wishful thinking, but moronic and closed minded.
For you to say that 5-6 months in jail is appropriate for offensive language is ludicrous and has just made me realise that there is no point me putting forward any more argument, as you are a deluded person.
May 7th, 2010 at 1:51 am ozsoapbox(Quote)
No surprises there.
Who said anything about frustration? I’m not in the police force, a whiny gen y uni student or part of the judicial system. I just like airing my opinion.
You seem to fail to realise that in assuming my events didn’t happen the way they did (and let’s be honest, they most probably did), you’re assuming things yourself.
Probably because there were not credible witnesses around. If police can’t even get a baseline level of respect upheld by the court system what hope do they have of someone being found guilty of jumping a barrier.
May 14th, 2010 at 6:54 pm Paul(Quote)
actually, yes they can quite easily ignore them.
Instead of turning the other cheek, this police office wasted taxpayers money (yes, yours and mine) on prosecuting a ridiculous case simply because he was personally offended.
As if the courts do not have better things to do than salve the egos of thin skinned police officers
May 14th, 2010 at 6:59 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
So if you break the law or do something that catches the police’s attention, all you have to do is start using offensive language and they should ignore you?
I’m not in the police force and I’m offended that people think they can just swear at people doing their jobs. One day when I need the assistance of a police officer, I don’t want some guy rocking up who’s beyond caring because he has to put up with people trash talking him day in day out.
November 1st, 2010 at 10:00 pm Benjamin Lupton(Quote)
Gotta agree with OzSoapbox, whether or not the case is ridiculous is missing the point. The two points are:
1. Cops should be treated with respect, just like anyone else.
2. If you break the law, you should be punished.
Everything else is irrelevant to the two points which are trying to be made by this article.
November 9th, 2010 at 12:40 pm josh(Quote)
OMG! First off look at the typical profile of who wants to be an officer. Power hungry losers.
I know an Aussie cop who quit the force….when I asked him why he quit he said ” I got better”. I have to say that a majority of police in this country (as I have lived in many), are mindless robots with small dick syndrome, out of shape terribly and don’t deserve full respect. Because they do not give it.
making $40,000 (if that) with a badge and a gun and here we go. Go give out as many tickets as you can boys and terrorize every youth you come across and lets make spray paint the centre of our activity…….pathetic. And couple that with the fact that Aussi’s are the most apathetic society on the planet ….well they can just do what they want can’t they?
They problem is the gov. here is also corrupt and thieves.