Two fuckwits, the DPP and a Taiwanese swimming pool

There are some things you can’t do in a public swimming pool in Taiwan.
The first and perhaps most annoying rule is that you have to swim with one of those annoying shower caps.
The second is that you can’t wear board shorts (yes all you skinny guys are going to put up with looking like malnourished African children if you want to swim here).
And the third, if you don’t have your own towel… and refuse to purchase one on loan from the swimming pool – you don’t get in.
Period.
Following these rules is a no brainer – it’s pretty much the same everywhere you go island wide and really, apart from the aesthetic inconvenience to your pride – is it really that hard to follow?
Apparently so.
Last Sunday a failure to follow these seemingly simple rules led to the uncovering of two of Taiwan’s biggest fuckwits ever, revelations of illegal stripping and even managed to drag in the country’s second largest political party, the DPP.
Seriously… all over a towel.
To digest the full extent of fuckwittery on display by the characters in this story, I’ve decided to split the narrative up into two parts.
“Eric”, the idiotically short fused English teacher from Hsinchu

Eric is your bog standard English teacher from Taiwan. White and hailing from Hsinchu, geographically about a third of the way down the island in the mid north, Eric no doubt got bored with his surroundings and in his spare time fled to the nation’s capital, Taipei.
Here he did the usual things with his girlfriend, go clubbing, get drunk… y’know – all the stuff that isn’t half as fun to do in one of the smaller cities of Taiwan.
Eric however wasn’t quite the bog standard teacher he appeared to be. Eric you see, had a dirty little secret.
Not content with the bucketloads of money to be made teaching English, Eric moonlighted as a stripper in Taipei for some extra cash.
That, and evidently he had a temper on him as explosive as a mouthful of left over kung-pow chicken chillies.
Last Sunday, Eric and his girlfriend decided to go swimming in Taipei City’s Wanhua district (south area of the city).
Having forgotten his towel, Eric was promptly informed by the staff desk that he would not be permitted entry.
Now usually in these situations, for a small fee, the swimming pool will offer you a towel of their own… but judging by Eric’s reaction (he no doubt thought he’d just be fine using his girlfriend’s towel to save a few bucks), this was an unacceptable compromise.
You see, upon being told he wouldn’t be able to enter the swimming pool without a towel, Eric got ‘involved in a dispute with a 27-year-old Taipei resident Wu Hong Jianyi ‘.
As I understand it, this dispute did indeed get physical (despite the Taipei Times claim it ‘almost involved in a physical confrontation‘) between Eric and another staffer who spoke very little English.
After being pulled off the guy, according to my girlfriend, Eric then apparently spat in his face.
Not only that, but during the confrontation Wu claims that Eric
said he was a gangster and I would pay for not minding my own business …
Oh dear, a gangster…?
What an unbelievable fuckwit.
Wu – the self righteous swimming pool clerk

For Wu, it should have been like any other ordinary day at the swimming pool. People in, people swim and people out.
All that however changed when Eric, the foreign teacher from Hsinchu rocked up.
Eric had forgotten his towel, and after shouting at Wu’s fellow employee and getting violent, Wu decided to step in and put a stop to Eric’s nonsense.
Having been ‘almost involved in a physical confrontation” with the foreigner, who threatened to hurt him’, Wu was furious and instead of simply reporting the incident to his boss, took matters into his own hands.
Over the next few days, somehow Wu ‘discovered’ that Eric was a registered teacher in Hsinchu City… but in his spare time took on extra work as a stripper in Taipei City.
This second job did not appear to be covered by Eric’s ARC and Wu promptly reported Eric to the authorities.
One might first ask how Wu got Eric’s details, and the only explanation I can come up with is that Eric was a regular at the pool who had his details on file.
Then one might ask how Wu got Eric’s employment details and discovered Eric was working as a stripper… and the only connection I can come up with is some investigative work on Facebook or some such.
How else is a swimming pool clerk going to ascertain the work details of a foreign national working in Taiwan… let alone find out that he’s working as a stripper too!
According to the Taipei Times, The Taiwanese government have three public servants handling approximately 30,000 white collar workers, so there’s no way they did the legwork on this case on their own in a week.
Hilariously, instead of this being handled quietly by the local police and immigration, with Eric being handed down an appropriate legal punishment (or even better, deportation), this incident was escalated and made headlines in Taiwan all week.
Hell, even the DPP got directly involved with DPP Taipei City Councilor Hung Chien-yi (洪健益) accusing
the foreigner of threatening Taiwanese and ignoring the country’s laws by illegally moonlighting, urging the Taipei City Government and the Taipei City Police Department to clamp down on the illegal jobs of so-called white-collar foreign workers.
“Taiwan is a friendly country and we welcome foreigners to work and live here legally. What we do not allow is any acts of disrespect toward Taiwanese and illegal acts from people like ‘Mr Eric”
I wholeheartedly agree about the illegal acts… but disrespect? What the fuck is that all about? Are Taiwanese people some infallible self-righteous entity now?
Eric is without a doubt the biggest fuckwit foreigner I’ve read about in Taiwan all year, and he absolutely deserves to be kicked out of the country. Even if immigration legally decide against this, I’d go one step further and plead with them to do so as a favour to the rest of us living here.
Fuck off back to England Eric, you’re a tool. Spitting on people and claiming to be a gangster… there’s no excuse for that.
But since when was showing disrespect to Taiwanese people illegal, as Hung implies. Jesus Christ princess, if I had to crack the sads everytime I was shown disrespect in Taiwan I’d have been strung up by the media and deported just days after arriving.
Harden the fuck up Taiwan.
Disrespect shouldn’t be encouraged by anyone towards anyone… but that doesn’t mean it’s illegal. People here treat eachother like shit on the roads, like shit at work, like shit in relationships, like shit in restaurants… so let’s not pretend like all of a sudden Taiwan is some bastion of a respectful society.
By and large most people in Taiwan are respectful of eachother most of the time but there’s always going to be fuckwits who ruin it for everyone. Chastise them by all means but really, there’s no need to turn events like this into an ‘us vs. them‘ scenario.
Eric is a fuckwit for putting on display a simply atrocious exhibit of antisocial behaviour, and Wu is a fuckwit for practically stalking the guy afterwards.
Meanwhile shame on the DPP for trying to turn this into a race issue. Eric might very well be a racist bastard with superiority issues, but ‘we don’t allow any acts of disrespect towards Taiwanese?‘
Try telling that to the taxi drivers who cause near accidents every other minute of every day and then yell abuse about it, or the old person who thinks it’s perfectly fine to cut in line, the idiots who don’t understand the simple concept of ‘WAIT FOR PEOPLE TO GET OFF THE MRT BEFORE YOU BARGE ON!’, the sleazy looking guys in white shirts and black pants standing outside ‘girl clubs’ who give every female the once over as they walk by, the hoardes of people who won’t even acknowledge you when you greet them with a hello (in Chinese or English), the south east Asian workers who have a social status barely above Taiwan’s stray dogs and the general rule that, so long as your saving face, it’s perfectly acceptable to lie through your teeth and completely re-engineer reality.
Taiwan, like any other country on the planet is full of disrespect amongst its locals and pretending otherwise, or that this is something localised to just foreigners, is an indefensible farce.
Footnote: Here’s a Chinese language news report from CIT about the incident with footage;
“Do you know who I am?”
…again, what a complete fuckwit.
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October 8th, 2011 at 9:04 pm mike(Quote)
“I wholeheartedly agree about the illegal acts… but disrespect? What the fuck is that all about?”
I’m the other way around. First, on the illegality – no. The State ought not to be in the business of registering and regulating labour to begin with, and those who disagree are necessarily advocating calibrated slavery*. A free market must necessarily encompass the labour market just as much as capital and consumer goods.
Second, an “act of disrespect” may sometimes be warranted depending on what it is and what the causus belli was, but there are different ways of going about it. Generally speaking, it pays (on many levels) to be careful in how you express your disagreements with the Taiwanese.
Nonetheless, I agree about Eric: this fool should have shut his stupid mouth and went and bought another towel, since after all, it’s not his swimming pool.
I don’t care what happens to him personally, but the principles are important – some form of apology and mandatory compensation would probably be just. Deportation would not be. Whether his erstwhile employers continue to employ him, however, may well be another matter.
My (always unpopular) 2 cents.
*The essential element to the definition of slavery being coercion.
October 9th, 2011 at 1:42 am ozsoapbox(Quote)
No job, no ARC.
And let’s face it, if this is how Eric behaves when he’s told he can’t enter a swimming pool… would you really want him teaching your upper class Hsinchu Science Park children?
October 9th, 2011 at 2:04 am mike(Quote)
No, no, no:
No job (and assuming no other financial assets), no income: no housing, no transport, no food, no medical care, etc.
What follows is, logically, one of three options: [a] reform of attitude in order to be of value to someone else and thereby survive, [b] resort to crime and the consequences of crime or [c] vagabond status: homelessness and malnutrition.
Why protect him from the logical consequences of his own actions by deporting him under the illusion that it is the greater punishment?
“…would you really want him teaching your upper class Hsinchu Science Park children?”
Not my kids – but let’s imagine they were (and that they’re old enough for this)…
“…hey kids, we’re going to let this guy teach you for a week as a practical lesson in how to recognize assholes in positions of authority. Remember, whatever bullshit he comes out with, just say ‘know’!”
October 9th, 2011 at 3:07 am ausGeoff(Quote)
He shoulda just whipped out his gangsta knife and cut his girlfriend’s towel in two.
Problem solved. (Or is their a minimum dimensional requirement for the towel?)
October 9th, 2011 at 3:57 am ausGeoff(Quote)
“their”…? Oh dear.
Quel bel domage!
October 9th, 2011 at 1:21 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
@mike
What’s worse, the illusion he’s being punished when he’s deported, or punishing the rest of us by letting him stay in Taiwan?
Imagine running into this guy in the street…
‘Hey nice scooter…’
‘WTF?! Hey DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?!, you’re gunna be sorry now!‘
@ausgeoff
His girlfriend was on the way I believe. Apparently she had his towel with her but he was demanding to be let in before she got there.
October 9th, 2011 at 3:49 pm Thoth Harris(Quote)
It sounds like the guy wanted attention, and he got it. It could be just that he just had too much testosterone at the time, but things got out of hand. If you’ve got pictures of yourself all ‘roided up on Facebook, and you are openly admitting you are a stripper, aren’t you asking for the attention (unwanted or not – so be it)?
In addition, his behavior before the clerk, quite out of proportion with the situation, the setting, and most likely out of proportion with the clerk’s behavior, was demanding attention, and really seems outlandish. He definitely got himself such ridiculously unwarranted attention.
The guy was a jerk. But to paint all foreigners with the same brush is doing us all an injustice, and makes some Taiwanese see us differently, particularly if somebody lashed out at somebody on a bad day. Some locals might start getting worried that we are like “that stripper guy.”
I don’t have anything against stripping, per se, but it seems a bit inappropriate for an English teacher who teaches kids in Taiwan (or a lot of places for that matter).
I am sure that almost all, if not all teachers here have been here illegally at one point. It’s just the nature of the system. You get your visitors visa, teach at the school where you’re going to teach in the meantime, and that, right there, is illegal – technically speaking, because you don’t have your Residency Visa or ARC yet.
Most substitute teaching and part-time teaching is also “off the books stuff.”
It’s just dumb for the DPP legislator to be making an issue of this, just because of some stripper-guy’s terrible behavior. It is not a political issue, period. If the media wants to make an issue of it, fine, but take xenophobia out of it.
I wonder if Next Media Animation will have a report about this? The stripper-guy obviously wanted to be famous, but let’s see if he gets teaching jobs after this.
October 9th, 2011 at 7:57 pm MJ Klein(Quote)
deportation is a greater punishment. Taiwan keeps deported people out and they cannot return typically for 10 years. this guy gives foreigners a bad name. get rid of him.
October 9th, 2011 at 10:24 pm mike(Quote)
Well I think the likes of you “give foreigners a bad name” too, what with that instant hive-reflex in calling for State reaction to every goddamn thing.
Get rid of yourself, sir.
October 10th, 2011 at 4:21 am Jeff L.(Quote)
“WAIT FOR PEOPLE TO GET OFF THE MRT BEFORE YOU BARGE ON!”
Yes! I don’t know whether to categorize this as a pet peeve or a deficiency in mannerism. It is such a simple concept to follow, but people – especially the older generation – don’t seem to grasp it. Older people are always ready to cut in line and charge in for a seat as soon as the MRT door opens.
There are signs all around an MRT showing how one should allow passengers OFF before you get ON. I used to think to myself, “Why is this here? The average man has enough common sense to know this information.” The same goes with the “do not urinate on his wall” sign that I see at Fuzhong MRT.
But then… well, I begin to understand why.
October 10th, 2011 at 10:52 am Liam S(Quote)
Unbelieveable………………i worked with this guy in hsinchu………….. he did the same thing to me in front of students all over telling him to calm down and don’t yell at kids………. that wasnt the first time he did it either….Also did this to another foreigner, worker a McDonald’s, worker at a gym…
He used to live in Japan and got kicked out over the same reasons. Not going lie im happy as hell hope he gets what he deserves
October 10th, 2011 at 12:16 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
@Jeff
I don’t get too annoyed by this anymore as I just stand there infront of them and make them look silly. They usually try and scuttle around me but that doesn’t work as everyone else who is getting off then blocks them.
Letting off a big sigh with a shake of the head whilst giving them the eye and then getting off comes next. I’d like to hope that gets the message through but probably not.
@Liam
Sounds like this clown deserves everything he gets. How do you wind up thinking it’s normal to be such a fuckwit to everybody at the drop of a hat.
Maybe sticking him in a customer service role for a few months in a busy environment would result in a change of attitude.
October 10th, 2011 at 2:16 pm Liam S(Quote)
I agree Ozsoapbox but. In my case i also blame the owner of the school who allowed this type of behavior and kept his ARC just so they would not have more trouble but in fact it made things worse
October 10th, 2011 at 8:23 pm j(Quote)
this dude causes trouble everywhere . . .
he even punched a guy in the face at my gym for some stupid shit and bolted . . .
seriously “Do you know who I am?”
Yes Eric . . . a “fucktard”
October 11th, 2011 at 4:13 am John(Quote)
This indignation re. foreigners and foreign workers can be seen in some form in every country. In the U.S., “they are stealing our jobs”, or “not integrating properly”, “not learning the language”. In Japan, Taiwan, China or Korea, “they are stealing our women.”
The media loves to expose moral failings of foreigners at any time, but it is especially gratifying when one is actually caught doing the sinful, lecherous things that most locals just assume most foreigners do (like fight, cheat/abuse women, sell drugs, strip, etc.).
Of course political parties want to be seen as the first to respond to this situation, and rush to protect the honor of the nation, etc. Free publicity for them.
October 11th, 2011 at 10:04 am ausGeoff(Quote)
I’d agree with this to a certain extent…
This is often the attitude in Australia, where unemployment (according to Roy Morgan 8/10) is currently 7.7% and which is around 2% higher than the official ABS figures — which are being “massaged” by the Gillard government.
The difference of course in Australia is that these itinerant workers are all applying for permanent residency visas once their work visas expire. Inevitably, they’re granted (due to so-called “extenuating circumstances”), and the workers become part of our full-time workforce, and thus deny many, many job positions to genuine Aussie workers.
It’s not as though they’re here for 2 years and then go back to their country of origin.
I’m guessing that the majority of foreign workers in Taiwan are only there for a couple of years — or is this incorrect and they stay for much longer periods? And are they doing the sorts of jobs that the “locals” can’t cope with (such as teaching English language) or are they denying the locals employment?
I’m therefore of the opinion — that in Australia at least — foreigners are in actuality effectively stealing Aussie’s jobs.
October 11th, 2011 at 12:27 pm mike(Quote)
“…these itinerant workers are all applying for permanent residency visas once their work visas expire. Inevitably, they’re granted (due to so-called “extenuating circumstances”), the workers become part of our full-time workforce, and thus deny many, many job positions to genuine Aussie workers.”
You’re trying to think your way over that wall aren’t you?
Here, let me help: if your “genuine Aussie workers” genuinely wanted to do those jobs, then why don’t they get in there first?
October 11th, 2011 at 12:57 pm John(Quote)
to Geoff’s question:
I think it all depend which category of foreigner you’re talking about in Taiwan.
The word most Taiwanese typically use to refer to Western foreigners is “lao wai”. Literal meaning is simply “foreigner”, but the actual meaning is “western foreigner” or “white foreigner”. A black person is “hei ren” (black person) regardless of where they are from.
They don’t typically use “laowai” for foreigners from other Asian countries. There are LOTS of domestic workers from Indonesia and Philipines, and lots of male laborers from Thailand, to name the bigger foreigner groups other than “westerners”.
If an Thai worker had broken some rules and gotten in a fight, I don’t think it would have made the headlines, because Taiwanese already feel superior to people from SE Asia. The agencies that employ them exploit and screw them anyway, and can have them deported for any reason.
But perhaps because it was a “white” guy, I think it was percieved as more insulting.
October 11th, 2011 at 3:35 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
@ausgeoff
There’s two types of foreign workers in Taiwan, the blue collar/maid south east Asia workforce and your teachers/engineers/businessmen workforce.
The blue collars are usually doing work Taiwanese don’t want to do or they’re imported by demand so it’s not like they’re seen as stealing jobs. The engineers/teachers/businessmen are usually part of companies that employ enough locals anyway so it’s not really competition.
Some jobs, English teachers for example, are a niche the locals can’t do (too many Taiwanese parents refuse to believe anyone who looks Asian can have fluent and well-spoken English).
I’d have to agree with Mike regarding Australia and people stealing jobs. We have minimum wage in place, either compete or line up at Centrelink. Complaining about people stealing your jobs is a copout.
October 11th, 2011 at 5:17 pm ausGeoff(Quote)
I guess I should have been a little more specific rather than generalising…
This is a hypothetical: At age 62 I apply for an advertised job for a permanent part-time position with a nationally-branded chain of copy centres. I’m willing to do any/all shifts, I have some tertiary education, and more than 40 years’ workplace skills, plus more than a decade working specifically in the commercial copying industry — as well as full Canon key-operator certified training.
At the same time, a 23-year-old male refugee from Sri Lanka who landed here 6 months ago applies for the job. This guy has only 4 years’ work experience, but he’s young and articulate, and willing to learn, and currently completing an IT diploma at TAFE. The employer is happy (it now turns out) to juggle his shifts to fit in with his study schedule. He also claims that he desperately needs work, as his wife has just given birth to their first baby.
I don’t need to tell you who gets the job. Or which applicant was told — in a letter — that “we’ve employed someone better suited to the position”.
And I lied initially: This is not a hypothetical.
October 11th, 2011 at 8:00 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
@ausgeoff – Isn’t that more of an age thing more than anything? He’s probably not going anywhere for a while in that company and they see it as a more viable longterm investment than employing yourself.
Better suited doesn’t neccessarily mean more qualified, it can mean just that, that the younger applicant was better suited to the business’ needs.
October 12th, 2011 at 2:39 am mike(Quote)
ausGeoff:
I know, it’s not a very nice situation to be in. But look – it’s his company not yours or the government’s, and that means he alone has the moral right to decide what constitutes “better suited”.
Find some way to compete, or find some other value you can offer that the other guy cannot or will not match.
If it doesn’t go your way: then get busy looking someplace else and even at something else.
You’re not the first guy in the world to have to go through this and you sure as hell won’t be the last. Stop whinging and bloody well get on with it!
October 12th, 2011 at 8:55 am ausGeoff(Quote)
I agree with this too Oz; once again though to only a certain degree…
I think a very relevant determinant — in Australia at least — is one’s age. Everything on the job-seeking front is now aimed squarely at the younger demographic, say school leaver-age to around 30+ years of age. This is a political thing.
The government (of either colour!) perceives this younger demographic as malleable future voters, who can — through lack of any real political nous — be swayed by all sorts of candy-apple promises.
Younger job-seekers are offered all sorts of in-house Centrelink training, paid private commercial courses, subsidised full-time TAFE diploma courses, free AUSTUDY travel and HCC cards, and EBT payments.
Try getting those benefits when you’re 59+ and it ain’t gonna happen. I guess I’m just suggesting a parallel about migrants stepping off the plane and into jobs as another aspect of a similar government mentality that’s discriminatory.
We can no better compete with migrants than we can with young people in the job market. And so any extra migrants definitely do add to our difficulties — even indirectly.
October 12th, 2011 at 9:25 am ausGeoff(Quote)
Thankfully, I’m now retired, as this incident (above) happened several years ago now…
What I had to offer — in spades — was a lifetime of workplace skills. I’d worked in every Australian state, and overseas, for upwards of 40 years.
I’d worked with every sort of cretinous boss imaginable, and managed commercial enterprises at a mid-management level, and effortlessly (well, you know!) returned above average KPIs time and again.
Could this other 23-year-old offer any of that — guaranteed? Of course not. But he was “only” 23; end of story.
I did exactly this for a number of years. From car detailing, couriering, selling door-to-door, storeman-packer, telemarketing, photocopier jockey, shop assistant… you know, all those fabulous sorts of jobs a 60-year-old bloke with all that work experience can do — and loves doing for a fantastic $14 per hour.
And I do acknowledge this…
But does that make the root causes somehow acceptable? Of course not. Shouldn’t we all be trying to correct this unfair scenario?
Because certain wrongs occur in the past in our society, shouldn’t we attempt to prevent them recurring, rather than just rolling over and letting them be repeated ad infinitum?
Pretty harsh stuff…
It’s all too easy to deprecate someone’s legitimate complaints by calling it “whinging”. Moral… meet high road.
October 12th, 2011 at 10:52 pm Sam(Quote)
I worked with that guy. I heared he turned into a real ass after I left.
October 13th, 2011 at 12:43 am MJ Klein(Quote)
Mike: “Well I think the likes of you “give foreigners a bad name” too, what with that instant hive-reflex in calling for State reaction to every goddamn thing.
Get rid of yourself, sir.”
really, Mike? i own a trading company, and i bring millions of dollars into the Taiwan economy each year. i’m sorry if that makes you look bad. really, i am.
“hive-reflex?” (whatever that is) Japan deported that guy already. there must have been a good reason for it.
criticizing people does NOT make you look smart.
October 13th, 2011 at 2:28 am mike(Quote)
“.. i own a trading company, and i bring millions of dollars into the Taiwan economy…”
I don’t care how much cash you manage to hustle down your trousers, you presumptuous old argument-from-the-dollar prick – it does not qualify you as an arbiter of when State violence should be used.
October 27th, 2011 at 2:06 am Hilsh(Quote)
@ausGeoff I’m a bit behind you since I’m 49 and I’m a Yank but we have a similar problem over here.
One thing that works against you is the concept of “over qualified”. The prospective boss thinks that you are unlikely over the long run to be content in such a menial job given your work skills and history. Therefore to cut down on his turnover costs the employer is going to overlook you for someone whom they perceive as having less portable skills.
Translation “This guy is going to be happy to have a job of any kind. That guy is seriously going to be able to find a better job for a lot more than I can afford to pay him. When that happens I’m right back where I am now, having to find a new person and train them and in the mean time I’m understaffed.”
I don’t like it either man but I do understand why it happens and it is in fact nothing personal.
October 27th, 2011 at 8:39 pm ausGeoff(Quote)
Agree absolutely with this Hilsh…
“Overqualified” is THE major operative word in all this. I’d be interested to know if this scenario operates in, say, the Taiwanese workforce — or any of the other Asian workforces.
Would one get a tertiary/university-educated applicant seeking a menial, longer-term factory job in Taipei, and if they did would they be knocked back automatically?
February 25th, 2012 at 10:39 pm Whatthehell(Quote)
On the most part, the Australian immigrants are doing the jobs locals don’t want to do, i.e. drive cabs, security, convenience stores, farming etc.
I think most of the 7% or so who are unemployed are unemployed because they don’t want to be, so Mike was right in the sense that if they applied they will most likely be hired before an immigrant. Thankfully most of the migrates to Australia are skilled which is help building a good foundation for the country.
Geoff’s situation is rare but I guess it happens and can happen anywhere. There’s no stopping it, if it wasn’t a Sri Lankan it could have been an unskilled local. People will always discriminate against age.
March 23rd, 2012 at 2:47 pm Dan(Quote)
He used to beat his girlfriend in hsinchu and got in a fight at work, that’s why he left