What not to get a Taiwanese person for Christmas
A rather cold snap has gripped Taiwan these last few weeks and as such my staple of thongs, shorts and tshirt isn’t really cutting it anymore.
I take Leela out for a daily walk in the morning to do her business and well, let’s just say if you lined me up with a bunch of toddlers, physically there wouldn’t be much of a difference.
Desperately needing to get some bummy but warm clothes to wear around the house, yesterday the two of us hightailed it to Hi-Mart.
I can’t say much about the quality of the clothes there, but they’re pretty cheap (nightmarket cheap) and for clothes I’m just going to wear around the house to keep warm – I don’t particularly care too much what they look like.
After an hour or so of trying on what felt like dozens of warm hooded tops, with the ones that fit having gaudy printed designs on them (too much even for just wearing around the house and on dog walks), and those that looked good being ill-fitting (Note to China: how about you make your cheap clothes arm lengths LONGER!), I finally found what I was looking for and we headed out.
With tracksuit pants to wear and a warm top to keep me warm, the only thing left to get was a pair of warm boots or slippers to keep my feet warm.
Walking into ABC-Mart (yes, sometimes it feels like every second shop in Taiwan is some derivative of XX-Mart), I browsed around until I stumbled on some very warm looking Vans Yeti boots (V8686) in the black.

I can’t seem to find any information on these boots outside of Taiwan, so they seem to be made for this specific market.

Yeah the pink is a bit homo but again, they’re just for wearing around the house and local dog walks so I can live with that. Oh, and my feet have never been toastier – no more day-long blog writing sessions in the freezing cold draped in a doona!
As I was trying the boots on a thought popped into my mind. Both of us had been a bit cold of later and I knew my girlfriend didn’t have any slipper type shoes at home either.
In one of those moments of lightning bolt clarity, after I’d had my boots put aside, I suggested we go have a look at what Vans had to offer in the female warm boot variety too.
Being women’s shoes she had a lot more variety but it didn’t take long to settle on these Vans Timothy 2Way St (V8819W EO) boots:


Again, nothing in English on these so I can only assume this entire Vans boots range is just for the Taiwanese (Asian?) market.
After getting her size and having a walkabout, as we made our way to the checkout I made my move.
‘Surprise, this is your Christmas present!’
I’ve always been a big fan of the practical Christmas present and warm boots seemed like just the ticket.
Of course it would have been nicer to be able to come back, buy the boots and actually give them to her on Christmas Day, but I couldn’t think of a reason to justify my own warm toastiness whilst making her stick out the next 13 days in the cold.
I’m not the most thoughtful person in the world but that would have been a bit much, even for me.
Despite me thinking I was a shoe-in for boyfriend of the year though, what happened next was completely unexpected.
‘What?’
‘These boots, I’ll pay for them – they can be your Christmas present!’
‘No… wait’
‘What?’
‘It’s just…’
‘Uh.. you don’t want them?’
‘No, no I do but…’
‘…’
‘You can’t give boots to someone as a present here.’
I forget exactly when it happened but as she told me why, I yet again had a cradling my head in my forehead moment as Taiwanese culture once again sought to suckerpunch me from behind.
Turns out if you give someone shoes as a gift in Taiwan, you’re basically telling them to fuck off out of your life. As in, literally – take these shoes and walk out of my life, I never want to see you again.
Well, perhaps not as dramatic as that but the idea is that this person sooner or later will walk out on you.
Of course, to get around this superstition the crafty Taiwanese came up with a solution. When somebody gives you shoes as a gift, you simply pay them $1.
That way you’re ‘buying’ the gift off them and all is well.
‘So… you give me $1, and we’re good?’
‘Pretty much.’
‘But if you don’t, I’m inadvertently telling you to get the hell out of my life?’
‘Yup…’
‘Riiiiiiiiiiiight’.
As of yet I haven’t accepted the dollar as I’m still trying to get my head around the idea of her paying me for my Christmas gift.
I mean, does that even count as a Christmas gift then? And what moron came up with this stupid superstitious rubbish anyway?!
…ARGH!
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December 12th, 2011 at 5:52 pm PeterF57(Quote)
Your staple of thongs, shorts and t-shirt.
You disappoint me OzBoy. I pictured you as something a bit more upmarket than a bogan.
Let’s hope that the cold snap will allow you to snap out of your boganness, and when the warmth hits you will dress a bit more unboganly.
Were you born in Morwell?
December 12th, 2011 at 7:54 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Huh? These are the clothes I sleep in and take the dog for a walk in the morning.
Dunno about you but high fashion isn’t really on my mind when I drag myself out of bed to take the dog for a walk first thing in the morning
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December 12th, 2011 at 7:59 pm Lynn Parker(Quote)
I suspect that you’re dealing with a Taiwanese girl “thing” and not a Taiwanese thing per se. I work for the shoe company Crocs and needless to say, I gift shoes to folks here all the time and I’ve never, ever have received complaints.
AND, before I worked for Crocs, my Taiwanese husband accepted shoe gifts from me all the time (some were even requests). The only taboo gift that I can recall is a knife.
I don’t know your g’rl friend, but I can only generalize that the girls here are materialistic and are keen to be with foreigners since they do have better earning power. Sorry Oz.
December 12th, 2011 at 8:17 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Don’t think that’s the case. I don’t make nearly enough to satisfy the golddiggers, we split all our meals and she buys her things and I buy mine.
I had a bit of a look and it seems to be a general gift giving rule – http://www.giftypedia.com/Gift_Giving_Superstitions
Mind you, I haven’t heard of half the stuff on that page.
December 14th, 2011 at 10:59 am Jorge(Quote)
I also learned not to give an umbrella to someone either. It means to “scatter” away, or something stupid. And the same crap, you give a dollar, and the curse magically goes away.
What kind of superstitious nonsense is this?
December 14th, 2011 at 3:39 pm PeterF57(Quote)
You sleep in your shorts, t-shirt and thongs, then take your dog for a walk in same?
Yep, it is as I wrote, methinks you need to have your forehead tattooed ‘BOGAN’, even though the thongs, when walking the streets, gives the game away.
Up in The Territory, or far North Queensland, maybe, but even there the thongs, to me, means bogan, big time.
Please stop giving me ammunition in the bogan name calling, you make it way too easy.
December 14th, 2011 at 3:45 pm Chububobcat(Quote)
I had this trouble before. A coworker of mine (a good friend that had helped me from day one in Taiwan) had this really nice wind up clock that you can see the clock works in and such on her desk for ages, and one day a kid accidentally broke it.
So being the considered friend that I am and wanting to do something nice for her, I searched high and low all over Taiwan to find a similar clock, only to be shot down when I gave it to her.
Turns out that if you give someone a clock as a gift you are telling them that they will die soon or something like that. I didn’t get any money but I did get a free meal, so I guess it was a trade rather than monetary transaction.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:01 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
@Peter
Every morning my girlfriend wakes me up after when she’s ready to leave for work and I jump out of bed, put a leash on Leela and walk down to the train station.
When I get back I have some breakfast, have a shower and wake up etc.
Buggered if I give a stuff about fashion first thing in the morning, I’m comfy and warm (or comfy and cool when you wake up to 30+ degree heat and 99%+ humidity in summer) and that’s all that matters
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December 14th, 2011 at 5:04 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
A free meal?! Man I got ripped off with my shitty $1 offering.
THERE’S GUNNA BE WORDS EXCHANGED TONIGHT!
December 14th, 2011 at 5:09 pm PeterF57(Quote)
Enough with the ammunition OzBoy.
Shorts, t-shirt and thongs screams out bogan. Do you see many more dressed like you out on the streets? Thongs???
Come on, now again, please, desist with the ammo and let it go or I will start calling you BoganBoy in lieu of OzBoy.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:26 pm Chububobcat(Quote)
Well your probably getting some extra “services” that I didn’t so your 1NT probably came with a “happy meal” later, while mine was just a simple 200NT meal at nice place.
Fair trade I guess.
December 14th, 2011 at 5:40 pm Lynn Parker(Quote)
According to Wikipedia Oz’s attire does not fit the description of a bogan. “Certain types of clothing are stereotypically associated with bogans, including flannelette shirts, monkey hoodies, Stubbies shorts, ugg boots, jeans and black leggings”
I agree with Oz that it doesn’t matter what one wears around the house and to sleep in. And, it doesn’t matter that he strolls out the door in the morning in those clothes to walk his dog.
I actually think that anybody that purposely changed his/her clothes to just walk the dog is being pretentious.
December 14th, 2011 at 6:01 pm Chububobcat(Quote)
Well not being an Aussie I didn’t know what a Bogan was, but after seeing pictures in google I got to say this is what we call in the US “trailer trash”, and doesn’t fit in with the style of a guy who rolls out of bed and throws on some trainers and a lazy t-shit to walk the dog or to sod about the house.
My school has a strict dress code for the teachers so I am use to wearing dress casual and business casual clothes all the time, but on weekends or at home there are times I look like a hobo.
Trainers almost anytime of year, baggy or sagging clothes, or what ever is comfortable. I take my dog out like this, and go to 7-eleven sometimes, i dont really care. Its my free time and I want to be comfortable.
So OZ’s fashion perfectly fine in my book.
December 14th, 2011 at 7:13 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
@Peter
Uh, in Taiwan? Lol mate more than half the country walk around in thongs and shorts in summer (and a fair few still do in winter as it rains a lot and thongs can get wet).
You can call me boganboy I don’t mind. There’s no way in hell I’m slipping into the usual jeans and boots first thing in the morning though just to walk the dog!
(note regarding fashion, I don’t think bum clothes are fashion!)
@Chub
Touche!
December 15th, 2011 at 1:29 am TaiwanTeacher(Quote)
When walking our black and white cat, I wear my tuxedo. Does that make me pretentious or just well color-coordinated?
December 15th, 2011 at 9:03 am PeterF57(Quote)
Come on BoganBoy, stop being so defensive.
You are a bogan and proud of it. That is good.
I wear thongs to the beach or down the river, or when walking outside to the dunny, and I’ll wear them when having Christmas lunch with my family over the other side of the river in a couple of weeks, but all the time?
Never, and never down the street, even though I live in a small country town where bogans rule and thongs are a fashion statement if they are multi-coloured, and people ooh and ah.
I am proud of you BoganBoy, that you could out yourself so beautifully as a bogan. It’s almost as epiphany like as all those horses’ proclaiming that they are gay and oh so proud of it.
And yes, I am giggling away here as I type, I am just so funny. I never though that boganism and horses’ism went together in being out and proud.
No more on this topic. Ny sides can’t handle the side splitting humour of BoganBoy’s defensive nature and of course my humorousness.
December 15th, 2011 at 10:53 am ozsoapbox(Quote)
Well… alrighty then.
December 16th, 2011 at 1:00 pm K. Chang(Quote)
There are a lot of these “expressions” that turns into cultural taboos. Here’s another one: you’re not supposed to gift a clock (clock, or jong, rhymes with “terminate/finish”)
Seems it’s far safer to buy gift certificates!
December 16th, 2011 at 1:09 pm K. Chang(Quote)
All these expressions and symbolisms are kinda… legacies (leftovers?) from much earlier era, hundreds or thousands of years ago, when language is used as a tool for rule (and sometimes oppression), i.e. power.
Some time in the Ming dynasty (?), many scholars were beheaded or exiled when they used words that can somehow be interpreted as belittling or insulting the emperor if you take away or add a few bits and pieces of the character and came up with Emperor’s name. This was known as wen-zhi-yu, or literally, written-word-prison.
There’s also bazillion ways to “euphemize” certain words or expressions by referring to them obliquely, such as, uh… “play flute” (a certain sex act), or “play with cloud and rain”.
So yes, it’s superstition, but it’s so long engrained it is a part of Chinese culture.
December 16th, 2011 at 3:00 pm ozsoapbox(Quote)
Thanks for the explanation K.
I believe it’s also ‘blow the (golden?) trumpet’? The golden trumpet being a popular name for brothels in Taiwan I’ve been told.