Muslim bank loans in Australia: Halal or haram?
Apparently there’s a huge untapped market where muslims in Australia aren’t taking out traditional loans because charging interest conflicts with sharia law. Despite traditional loan methods involving interest muslims are obviously still taking out loans to buy housing and cars, you only need to look at the western suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne to confirm this.
Presumably muslims are getting finance from independent third party operators in what must be a pretty controlled niche industry. Think about it, you offer loans to muslims who can’t go anywhere else but still need to finance essentials like a car or house. You don’t need to be muslim yourself to offer the loans, you just need to make sure the loan is halal by complying with the no-interest rule.
Where else are they going to go?
It has already been noted that the Islamic finance industry is booming in Asia and Latrobe University already offer an Islamic Banking and Finance degree, pre-empting Islamic finance as a future growth industry in Australia.
If we as a country want to exploit tap into this ludicrous market (religious people tend to have limited options when it comes loans), then logically the first step would be to test home grown products on Australian muslims.
Enter the National Bank of Australia.
This morning the National Bank of Australia (NAB) has announced plans to bring muslim-friendly loans into into mainstream finance by offering national muslim-friendly loans. From discrimination to public perception to actually turning over a profit there’s a seemingly large minefield in a national company announcing such an initiative.
On the surface though, the NAB seem to be doing it right.
The whole premise behind a muslim-friendly loan is that no interest is allowed to be charged on repayments. To get around this the bank simply purchase what it is you were after and then sell it back to you with a profit margin.
ie. I want a $1000 bicycle and go approach the bank. After some prayers and the sacrifice of a kitten the bank approves my loan and goes out and buys the bicycle for me. They then sell it back to me at say $1200. I still make repayments but the loan counts as being muslim approved because I’m not paying interest on the loan itself.
In the case of home loans, companies seem to get around the interest rates by charging ‘rent’ with the renter eventually acquiring a 100% financial stake in the property.
I know, talk about your religious technicalities.
As the Daily Telegraph points out, these type of loans have “the advantage of making the loan immune from future interest rate rises.” What isn’t disclosed though is the percentage increase on the cost of the item.
What could really make these loans appealing is if the increase in the selling price the banks put on the item they are reselling back to you is less then the variable interest rate on loans, or might be less in the near future.
For example say a bank offers you a $1000 loan at 5% variable interest and the interest rate has jumped twice in the last 6 months, if the muslim loan profit increase was at 5% or even less you could easily come out on top and as a bonus protect yourself from unstable interest rate rises.
Currently we’re starting to see this already happen in our financial sector with the Commonwealth bank deciding to “selfishly” start bumping up interest rates because you know, the recession is over. The bank were so slow to drop the rates but even at the slightest whiff of bounce back up they go.
In these cases a muslim style loan makes sense for the consumer, again providing the profit margin percentage is appealing. Given no facts and figures have been released other then the first round of loans will be $1000 or so capped to fifteen million of initial investment in the scheme I’m assuming the NAB is poised to take advantage and screw consumers.
If the model is sustainable on a small scale trial I guess it won’t be long before we see national fully fledged Australian bank backed muslim friendly mortgages.
Realistically all the NAB has to do is charge slightly less then the private operators who offer muslim loans do and they’ll be guaranteed a market share of the muslim loan industry. Given that anything more financially attractive then the standard ‘we charge you interest’ model would make the bulk of their currently loan models redundant (why pay more when you don’t have to?), there is no incentive to make muslim loans more appealing.
What is most likely going to happen is that these loans are heavily marketed to predominantly muslim areas but are offered to all members of the community. Naturally if you’re not bound by silly religious laws you’re not going to sign up to a loan that will cost you more then a normal interest loan, so that leaves only the ‘we have no other choice’ muslims left to be screwed over.
This way the banks appear to be offering non-discriminatory loans, are able to legally screw over a certain demographic who have no other choice due to silly religious laws and the ludicrous Sharia Advisory Board is kept afloat providing clerics to bless wads of loan money (or hard drives given finance is mostly all electronic these days).
Sounds like it’s win-win all round, well… except for muslim wallets.





June 21st, 2009 at 2:56 pm (Quote)
Hi,
It’s not hard to see by reading your article that you have no respect for the muslim people or their beliefs and in the end of the day you have no respect for yourself. Before you judge let me explain.
The whole point of not paying interest is to keep things fair and honest. Leaving your livelihood in the hands of the Reserve ‘Bank’ and the rest of their cohorts is a silly move when scrutinised.
The Reserve ‘Bank’ is a privately owned institution which moves to the beat of its own drum. Whenever they feel the need to raise or lower interest rates to suit their needs they do so regardless of the consumers needs. The amount ultimately paid isn’t what’s important to some people, but more the knowledge of how much they have to pay.
Personally i would rather hold my future in my own hands rather than the hands of the chairmen of the Reserve ‘Bank’. If you would rather let the rich and powerful control your life and steal your money that’s fine, us backwards cat sacrificing muslims ain’t gonna judge ya. Just know that without muslims and their beliefs there would be less understanding of the banking system amongst people, more of a monopoly over us and a few less options for EVERYBODY.
But i guess a person of your knowledge probably knows all of this already…
June 21st, 2009 at 3:11 pm (Quote)
It doesn’t take a scientist to workout I have zero respect or tolerance towards the Islamic religion, I admit so freely with my self respect intact.
As for your points on the Reserve bank, well this is true if you take out a variable interest rate loan. You do know that fixed interest rate loans are available right?
Obviously only fixed for a certain term and then renegotiated but you still know beforehand what you’re coughing up before you sign on the dotted line. A halal muslim ‘no interest’ loan is just a normal fixed term interest loan with no term.
You guys can call it what you want to appease your imaginary pie in the sky but it’s the same thing.
June 21st, 2009 at 5:26 pm (Quote)
Oz -
You can have ur opinion and belief etc, but things like ‘It doesn’t take a scientist to workout I have zero respect or tolerance towards the Islamic religion, I admit so freely with my self respect intact’ on your blog is unnecessary.
You can choose not to respect anyone / anything as this is a free country, but don’t be rude!!!
Im sure you’d be upset when someone shows no respect of you or your loved ones… (or perhaps not, then I pity you!) It’s inappropriate to say such things in public!
June 21st, 2009 at 5:40 pm (Quote)
Rude to who? The religion? I really don’t give a damn if Islam is offended that I think it’s a giant chauvanistic crock.
If someone wants to criticise my non-existant religion then by all means do so, I don’t really care. Criticising people is very different and naturally I’d take offense if someone personally insulted me or my loved ones. Probably not so much myself as I have to have a thick skin if I’m throwing my opinion out there.
Just because I might think holdens are shit doesn’t mean I think all the people who own are personally shit.
If you can’t give your own opinions on your own blog… well what is the world coming to?
June 21st, 2009 at 5:51 pm (Quote)
Im not saying you cant but im saying don’t be rude… not rude to the religion but to the people who believe the religion……
Anyway… not here to argue but to express my opinion…
November 15th, 2009 at 12:20 pm (Quote)
Well it is quite obvious by your article the overwelming ‘repect’ (lack there of) you have for Muslims and their beliefs….by your remarks it is quite clear the lack of knowledge about Halal banking.
The point of Halal finance, done in accordance to Sharia, is to keep it just and fair. The commercial banks that use interest payements have riped you and countless others off for centuries….! in 25 year loan you would have paid for your home 3-4 times over. Correctly implemented halal home loans you only would have paid a small percentage on top of of house sale price by the end of the 25 yrs.
So who has the ’silly’ religious law?
As for NAB… those who are educated in Islamic Halal finance which is quite simple to understand will be able to smell a rat. If NAB are taking advantage of anyone it may possibly be those who have no undersatnding of the Halal financing.
November 15th, 2009 at 12:34 pm (Quote)
You do. Whether you pay interest or buy back your home at an increased sale price from the bank the bottom line for them is still more money. I imagine on a home loan we’re not talking ‘interest’ of just a few thousand dollars either otherwise there’d be nothing in it for the halal lenders.
Without interest there’s nothing stopping people from borrowing and then failing to live within their means, just look at the sub prime mortgage mess the US is/was in.
If halal loans start massively undercutting regular interest loans (as in the buyback amount is vastly less then the interest paid on a standard homeloan) then everyone is going to jump on the bandwagon and we’re back to square one.
My problem isn’t so much the fact that it’s a muslim loan, respect for the religion aside, but rather that halal loans are the same thing as a fixed rate interest loans. Extra money is extra money to the banks who ‘riped’ us off.
January 13th, 2010 at 3:50 pm (Quote)
Wow. You’re lack of respect for the muslim community is disguisting. You’re lack of respect for religion whatsoever is disguisting. But foremost, I didn’t come on this site to read a pathetic attempt at an attack on the religion of our fellow Australians by some ill educated moron. Halal home loans make sense to me much more than the traditional home loans, regardless of the fact that I’m not of muslim faith.
I suggest you start educating yourself on halal home loans under compliance with islamic faith before you embarrass yourself with such a incorrect, outdated and pathetic article on your blog.
Peace.
January 13th, 2010 at 4:05 pm (Quote)
I’ve got a better idea, how about you explain how a halal home loan is any different then a regular home loan? The interest still exists either way it’s just locked in at a fixed rate and lump summed.
Let’s face it as far as compliance goes it’s merely a technicality so that muslims can apply for loans and buy houses on crdit like everyone else.
As for religious respect, I’m certainly not going to apologise for my criticism of them. Respect is earnt, not a right.
January 13th, 2010 at 5:53 pm (Quote)
Yep I agree with that. I meant a traditional home loan as in one that’s interest rates are determined by the reserve bank. I’d rather have the bank buy the house for me then sell it back at a price agreed on by both parties.
I agree it is merely a technicality so that muslims can apply for loans but what’s so bad about that?
Oh and your comment on sacraficing kittens is, dispite your own belief, not humourous. It just shows your lack of knowledge and respect for a religion.
January 13th, 2010 at 6:44 pm (Quote)
If you’re smart and in the market you’ll buy on an interest rate downtrend. You’re only hurting yourself by locking into a high interest rate.
No bank is ever going to offer a fixed term low interest rate for a home loan, the halal factored in rates will always be higher then the market rate.
Banks are businesses and all a halal loan does is bring the exploitation of people’s religious beliefs to mainstream business.